My AI-driven identity crisis

52 wonger_ 45 8/14/2025, 3:44:55 AM dusty.phillips.codes ↗

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low_tech_love · 1h ago
“I have hopes for a utopian future where AI does everything better than humans, which allows us to spend our time poorly doing the things we are most excited about.”

This thought is quite common and widespread, I’ve heard it multiple times, and it always baffles me. The very idea that human beings would stop exploiting each other and just live a peaceful, content life with their AI helpers is so hopelessly distant from the way I understand the world. I wish I was wrong, but human beings don’t exploit each other because we need to, as if it was an unfortunate thing; we exploit each other because we want and because we can. Even if AI robots solved most of our problems, we will never simply accept that and let others live in peace. Some human beings will always look for opportunities to rise above others, as long as they somehow can. I’d go even further as to say that, in case a future like that became actually feasible and predictable, lots of people currently in positions of power would fight very hard to keep that from happening.

fulafel · 57m ago
For a remedy to this flavour of pessimism I'd suggest you read Bregman's Humankind[1]. tldr; the current level of exploiting each other doesn't come naturally for people.

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Humankind:_A_Hopeful_History

jjani · 30m ago
> the current level of exploiting each other doesn't come naturally for people.

Agreed, it doesn't. Nothing about that fact seems reason for optimism, however. It's a gigantic leap to go from "the current level of exploiting each other doesn't come naturally for people" to "that level is going to decrease, or stop rising, any time soon".

mock-possum · 25m ago
Doesn’t it, though? Where else could it come from, but our own nature? Do we not live in an environment of our own creation, more and more each generation?

Edit - you know what, after a bit of reading, I do get the point being made. Thanks for the book reference, I’m going to place a hold at my library if they have it.

bilbo0s · 26m ago
I think you may be misapprehending what some people think may be happening here.

The issue is not people exploiting one another to rise above each other. The issue is a few people exploiting AI's they own to keep themselves above everyone en masse.

They don't lose the need to rise above you, rather staying above you is the entire point of the AIs they're creating. If you want to compete in the economy in the future, you will have no choice but to also exploit their AIs to try to rise above others. Thereby helping the owning class rise further above you.

Why not make your own? Because you don't happen to have an army of AI researchers to create it for you. Why not use open source models? Again, you can, but you're betting those models will be better than commercial models. And right now the capability gap there is widening.

People in power wouldn't fight AIs to keep themselves in power. Rather you, yourself, using the AIs they own to make a living, would more deeply entrench their already extant power.

mccoyb · 2h ago
I’ve tried to use flagship models to produce long-ish technical writing content and the result has not been satisfactory.

The resulting content lacks consistency and coherency. The generated prose is rather breathless: in carefully articulated content, every sentence should have a place. Flagship models (Opus 4~) don’t seem to understand the value of a sentence.

I’ve tried to prompt engineer this behavior (one should carefully attend to each sentence: how is it contributing to the technical narrative in this section, and overall?), but didn’t have much success.

I suspect this might be solved by research on grounding generation against world models: much of verifying “is this sentence correct here?” has to do with my sharing of a world model of some domain with my audience. I use that world model to debug my own writing.

melvinroest · 1h ago
Maybe do a new prompt at paragraph level?
ip26 · 2h ago
Exactly this sort of thing makes it feel like there could be a "cliff" or "eternal winter of human publishing", where books like his are never again written by humans.

Often when tech comes out that does something better than people, it makes sense for people to stop doing it. But in the case of "books explaining things", AI only learned how to explain things by examining the existing corpus - and there won't be any more human-generated content to continue to learn and evolve from, so the explanatory skills of AI could wind up frozen in 2025.

An alternative would of course be that humans team up with AI to write better books of this sort, and are able to develop new and better ways of explaining things at a more rapid pace as a result.

A relatively recent example that sticks in my mind is how data visualization has improved. Documents from the second half of the 1900's are shockingly bad at data presentation, and the shock is due to how the standard of practice has improved in the last few decades. AI probably wouldn't have figured this out on its own, but is now able to train on many, many examples of good visualization.

scotty79 · 2h ago
Books like his used to be a huge thing. There was a wall of computer books in every book store. When internet came they mostly disappeared. Why would I pay a lot to buy a book if I can find more up to date knowledge about any given software thing on the internet for free? Recently I noticed they make a comeback in the form of a small shelf that you can find in you try hard. But it reminds me of a comeback of record players. Books like his were already vintage before AI. A thing you buy not for the utility, but just because you have nostalgia and too much money.
irjustin · 1h ago
> Stack Overflow usage is in absolute free-fall.

I'm actually sad by this because it was such a place that was so foundational my development as an engineer. I visited it once in last month or so, when I had an AWS Lambda - Playwright issue that need specific settings to solve the problem but Claude, Gemini gave me a mash of the answers. I'm not complaining, but I "grew up" with Stack.

Our space no longer looks like a pyramid, I liken it to diamond-ish. New grads will simply not be able to find jobs[0] and I'm worried for anyone entering the E in STEAM (can't speak for others).

It's happening now and we're only at the tip of the iceberg. I have 2 young children and am uncertain about how to help them navigate the future.

The sword of efficiency doesn't care about my children. I mean that's my whole job right? to help people become efficient? It's just the speed and scale is insane.

More questions than answers...

[0] https://www.nytimes.com/2025/08/10/technology/coding-ai-jobs...

slaterbug · 30m ago
My partner and I have basically decided not to have children at this point for the exact reason you stated. The rate of change at the moment is dizzying and I’m not sure that the future we’re heading toward is one that I’d want my kids to be part of.
boristsr · 2h ago
I understand your thoughts. I've had similar motivation problems about blogging since the release of ChatGPT. Feels like you are writing for a machine rather than readers. Definitely seen a decline in readers since December 2023 on older articles that previously had steady traffic for years.

Also, I just purchased LazyVim For Ambitious Developers. I've used the online edition a number of times in recent months. Thanks for your work!

roadside_picnic · 1h ago
As an author who is currently under contract to finish a book, I'm a bit annoyed that AI really can't write for me. I'm busy, I really like writing, but writing a good book does involve serious time researching and exploring. I've tried to have AI help me through, but I've more often than not had to dive into source code and run experiments to make sure I understand what's going on. It's even a book on AI, so there would be no shame at all in using AI to write it.

> So what am I good for anymore?

And here I was thinking this question is why writers write at all. Who else would do something requiring so much work for so little reward but those who fundamentally think they aren't worth much, it's what unites us.

But I don't think I worry about being replaced, not because I'm irreplaceable, but because if I could be completely replaced I think that might be quite a delightful experience. Imagine all those people who need something from you satisfied. That's what being replaced would entail: not a single person demanding a single thing from you. But unfortunately no, I'm still needed here, annoyingly.

weatherlite · 2m ago
> But I don't think I worry about being replaced, not because I'm irreplaceable, but because if I could be completely replaced I think that might be quite a delightful experience.

Would like a bit more of whatever it is you're taking :) Seriously, you don't need to know you create some value to the world ? If we all stop contributing why the hell would Zuckerberg let us live ? We're ruining his earth in his eyes probably ... I bet his A.I is already telling him it's not great to let 8 billion people consume so much resources...

srhtftw · 56m ago
As for me I've seen LLM based AI produce bland summaries¹ for a few years. Occasionally they generate something funny². But they cannot yet write anything I would spend my time or money to read.

> I'm still needed here, annoyingly.

Indeed you are. Indeed you are.

¹- https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=34647947

²- https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43168595

Imustaskforhelp · 1h ago
>Who else would do something requiring so much work for so little reward but those who fundamentally think they aren't worth much, it's what unites us.

This seems like the most dystopian statement given that writers are taking pride in the unity / fact that they are under rewarded / basically exploited by the system and you are taking this exploitation as a sense of unity?

I understand that you didn't mean any harm with the statement but I feel like this statement is true and it just shows what a bloody dystopian nightmare we live in man.

Exploitation has become the norm.

BugsJustFindMe · 1h ago
> And here I was thinking this question is why writers write at all.

As a job? Income. Like every other job we do in this insufferable world.

FeepingCreature · 2h ago
You shouldn't feel a need to justify your existence. You don't owe anybody anything for the right to exist.
Animats · 2h ago
The world does not owe you the right to exist, either. Not under US-type capitalism.
srhtftw · 45m ago
I prefer to believe otherwise. In the words of the Desiderata¹

You are a child of the universe no less than the trees and the stars; you have a right to be here.

¹- https://www.desiderata.com/desiderata.html

diordiderot · 1h ago
> The world does not owe you the right to exist

I mean thats just nature. Darwin etc.

Maybe you should try the DPRK?

hackable_sand · 46m ago
Hold up

Nature does give everyone the right to exist without justification.

I'm not sure what Darwin has to say on the matter. He doesn't strike me as prescriptive.

danlitt · 40m ago
> Yet you participate in society. Curious!
piva00 · 24m ago
There is a vast spectrum between US-style neoliberal-late-capitalism and the DPRK, maybe both extremes just need to die to stop this kind of stupid thought-terminating cliché for once.
luxpir · 5m ago
Sell a course.
thorum · 2h ago
I think we’re going to have to set bigger goals for ourselves. We’re all still figuring out what that means.
shhhhhplease · 1h ago
Phone numbers and addresses became useless knowledge. Not useless, but you know what I mean. We’ll shuffle more out so what’s useful can be learned and stored. And so on and so on, but the pace and scale of this one is huge.
NBJack · 2h ago
Strangely enough, I suspect that if AI truly becomes prevalent, in about 5-10 years there will be a counter culture of those seeking things they strongly believe are human made, tangible, and genuine. I believe folks will yearn for in person shows and performances, seek respected authors and artists, getting out of the AI slop bubble at least for a time.

I don't think it will ever counter the change, but I suspect there will be some interesting developments in culture worldwide caused by this.

canistel · 2h ago
This can be compared with fine art (as against photography or digital art), theatre (as against films), handmade (as against factory produced) etc. In all these cases, the originals occupy an expensive niche, usually beyond the reach of the common-folk.
NBJack · 2h ago
You are probably right. That would track well with prior behavior.

I suppose it will also depend on how affordable/accessible these models will be.

georgeburdell · 1h ago
Had this thought too. Even came up with a tongue-in-cheek term for such a group: luddaites :). I believe it will be sooner than 5-10 years.
briga · 1h ago
I've been reading a lot of (human-written) books lately, and one thing this has made abundantly clear to me is that AI writing just doesn't stack up. For one AI writing is often completely wrong about the details. But it also just tends to be bland and superficial. If you want a 5-minute summary of something, sure, it can do a passable job. But if I want something substantial and carefully thought out, I'll choose a book written by a human expert every time.

Maybe this will change at some point in the future, but for now there's no way I would substitute a well-written book on a subject for AI slop. These models are trained on human-written material anyway, why not just go straight to the source?

theletterf · 2h ago
As a tech writer, I feel like I'm becoming a context curator: I'll still write, with AI being one of the readers. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=44837875
nikolayasdf123 · 1h ago
yes, in the age of AI making any money is getting increasingly hard
revskill · 1h ago
Ai needd to be perdonalized to understand human assumption and knowledge better.
martin-t · 2h ago
The issue is calling it "AI" in the first place.

It's not, it's a statistical model of existing text. There's no "genAI", there is "genMS" - generative machine statistics.

When you look at it that way, it's obvious the models are build on enormous amounts of work done by people publishing the the internet. This amount of work is many orders of magnitude more hours than it took to produce the training algorithms.

As a result, most of the money people pay to access these models should go to the original authors.

And that even ignores the fact that a model trained on AGPL code should be licensed under AGPL as well as its output - even if no single training input can be identified in the output, it's quite straightforwardly _derived_ from enormous amounts of trainings data input and a tiny (barely relevant) bit of prompt input. It's _derivative_ work.

slidehero · 2h ago
> It's _derivative_ work.

fwiw, I mostly agree with you (ai training stinks of some kind of infringement), but legal precedent is not favouring copyright holders at least for now.

In Bartz v. Anthropic and Kadrey v. Meta "judges have now held that copying works to train LLMs is “transformative” under the fair use doctrine" [1]

i.e. no infrigement - bearing in mind this applies only in the US. The EU and the rest of the world are setting their own precedents.

Copyright can only be contested in the jurisdiction that the alleged infringement occurred, and so far it seems that fair use is holding up. I'm curious to watch how it all plays out.

It might end up similarly to Uber vs The World. They used their deep pockets to destabilise taxis globally and now that the law is catching up it doesn't matter any more - Uber already won.

[1] https://www.ropesgray.com/en/insights/alerts/2025/07/a-tale-...

martin-t · 2h ago
> fwiw, I mostly agree with you (ai training stinks of some kind of infringement), but legal precedent is not favouring copyright holders at least for now.

I know. I am describing how it should be.

Copyright was designed in a time when concealing plagiarism was time-consuming. Now it's a cheap mechanical operation.

What I am afraid is that this is being decided by people who don't have enough technical undersanding and who might be swayed by everyone calling it "AI" and thinking there's some kind of intelligence behind it. After all, they call genMS images/sounds/videos "AI" too, which is obviously nonsense.

drdeca · 2h ago
I don’t think copyright works that way.

Also, not sure what you mean by “statistics”.

If you mean that a parameter for a parameterized probability distribution is chosen in order to make the distribution align with a dataset, ok, that’s true.

That’s not generally what I think of when I hear “statistics” though?

martin-t · 2h ago
> I don’t think copyright works that way.

Maybe but it should - see sibling comment.

Statistics as in taking a large input and processing it into much fewer values which describe the input in some relevant ways (and allow reproducing it). Admittedly it's pretty informal.

k310 · 2h ago
> THIS is the identity crisis: I’ve had a talent for explaining things from a young age, and I’ve honed the talent into a skill over several decades. I derived satisfaction from knowing that I do it better than average. Now that skill has already been commodified.

The writer seems to assume that people can learn entirely from computer displays. (Including glasses) That would be a world where our entire lives or a great deal of them, are devoted to computer generated facts, experiences, well, everything.

There are still both creative and mundane experiences like the door molding that needs a fix.

I've been through a few revolutions that "changed everything" From the phone without a dial (true) to cell phones that solve the formerly horrifying "I couldn't find you at the airport" situation.

And so on.

I guess that the existential question is: "What is the purpose, meaning, and joy in life?"

It's not defined by the gadgets and technologies outside us, but truly by the relationships we have with people. So, if AI "replaces" my highly personal photographic experiences captured on film or memory, it's shared with close friends who know the story behind it and its value as an experience shared. I rarely post my photos anywhere, thanks to the image bureau and AI dragnets. They commoditize and destroy that personsl value. Art is self-expression. Read Joseph Conrad's preface [0]

Likewise, as long as life is full of experiences away from computer screens (and glasses), those are real life, and the technology is just ornament.

I had a plan for after-school education in which kids would go out and measure things and use computers to analyze the data. Like Kepler, but a lot faster. And the learning is in the doing.

Very long ago, 50 years to be factual, I wanted to get a third class Electrician's Mate rating, and in those days, you could strike for a rating. Pass some exams and show expertise with real gear. One of the Warrant Officers was tickled that I did it "the old way" instead of "A" school, because it's all "A" school now. Probably computerized.

Now, I'm retired, and relationships with people mean even more. I have more experiences and wisdom to share, and in a way that's unique to each person, not a multidimensional "profile" which might even be more complete than my understanding, but in a personal way that comes from the shared experience of being human and cares deeply about feelings, because we've had similar ones.

Not defined by the technology of the time: Mom and Dad's old "Operator" phone or 53 Ford. But by what we shared as persons, equal in humanity though as different as a kid and parent can be, and through evolving lives and times.

[0] https://standardebooks.org/ebooks/joseph-conrad/the-nigger-o...

pillefitz · 2h ago
Beautiful comment, thanks
globalnode · 54m ago
didnt read the article but i doubt ai was the driver
scotty79 · 2h ago
The name of the game for highly creative people is pivot. Have you ever wished you had a clone, even imperfect one, that you could just tell what to do, so you can do other stuff? Do you have any ideas that would require you to hire some people to even attempt them but never could afford the cost nor the risk? Did you ever wanted to try something else but doing what you are best at took the bulk of your time? Explore those ideas now with the use of AI. Broaden your horizons. Throw a lot of daring things at the AI wall and see what sticks for you. With AI powered tools there never been a better time to be highly creative person.
kookamamie · 2h ago
> It’s not clear whether AI will take our programming jobs

I think it's safe to say it is pretty clear.

As an example, you can power 10 developers with the highest tier of Claude Code Max for a year under the price of a new developer. At this point, having plenty of personal experience with the tool, I'd pick the former option.

There, one less job for a developer.