The couple of times I’ve even done as little as fly through Heathrow it has been apparent to me that the UK is on its way to becoming an unfettered surveillance state, and I never hear anyone talking about it.
oniony · 59m ago
We're too scared to talk about it lest our faces get added to a list.
sidewndr46 · 1h ago
Doesn't the UK have cameras everywhere doing this anyways?
arethuza · 1h ago
HN title is wrong - the article title says "...across police forces in England".
oniony · 1h ago
It's not wrong as England is within the UK: it's just not as precise as it could have been.
arethuza · 51m ago
HN Guidelines say "please use the original title, unless it is misleading or linkbait"
thebruce87m · 12m ago
The changed title is actually misleading since it includes three other countries that didn’t appear in the original.
conartist6 · 2h ago
If you have nothing to hide you have nothing to fear.
We are going to be hearing that argument a lot as the AI police state evolves
ebiester · 22m ago
And you’re not trans. And you don’t perform drag. And you don’t go to an event with a lot of gay people. And you don’t get mistaken for someone because ai isn’t perfect. (Especially if your race doesn’t have many people in the dataset.)
But the people that don’t have anything to fear don’t see anything wrong with “inconveniencing” these groups.
beardyw · 1h ago
10 vans works out at one for every 10,000 square miles. Hardly a "roll out across the UK".
holsta · 1h ago
> Hardly a "roll out across the UK".
What's your threshold for when it becomes a problem? Should we wait until it becomes a problem, or should we try to stop this level of facial recognition?
You should also assume this is a proof of concept. It'll get improved and scaled down to run on every police vehicle, and on every camera the police already control.
drcongo · 1h ago
I'm so embarrassed to be British these days. We're a small island of small minded people.
potato3732842 · 1h ago
Small mindedness (to use your words, though I think other sets of words are perhaps more descripitive) is a condition that spreads like the plague. If you don't constantly stamp it out through ostracizing and marginalizing the infected and those who intentionally create the conditions for it then you will be overrun.
lm28469 · 1h ago
Largest empire in history in 1920 to small isolated island speedrun any %.
It's a good modern historical example of how you cannot take anything for granted on a long enough timescale (wink wink USA), and it wasn't even that long, no matter how good or bad things are looking right now all it takes is a couple of generations to radically change the situation
philipallstar · 46m ago
We're so small-minded we let in more than basically anyone else as a percentage of our population and land area.
I mean, if by small minded you mean "stupid" you're probably right, but I don't think you can mean much else. Unless you've never been anywhere else.
bbg2401 · 45m ago
Being embarrassed by your nationality or citizenship is certainly a feat of small mindedness.
davesmylie · 1h ago
Well, that's some distopean shit right there ain't it
We are going to be hearing that argument a lot as the AI police state evolves
But the people that don’t have anything to fear don’t see anything wrong with “inconveniencing” these groups.
What's your threshold for when it becomes a problem? Should we wait until it becomes a problem, or should we try to stop this level of facial recognition?
You should also assume this is a proof of concept. It'll get improved and scaled down to run on every police vehicle, and on every camera the police already control.
It's a good modern historical example of how you cannot take anything for granted on a long enough timescale (wink wink USA), and it wasn't even that long, no matter how good or bad things are looking right now all it takes is a couple of generations to radically change the situation
I mean, if by small minded you mean "stupid" you're probably right, but I don't think you can mean much else. Unless you've never been anywhere else.