> Israel approves controversial West Bank settlement project
Israel approves patently illegal West Bank settlement project
Group_B · 2h ago
Why the US remains allies with Israel will forever be a mystery
AuthAuth · 1h ago
Geopolitics doesnt change because someone was mean. Its all about power and influence. Isreal is key for enacting and protecting American interests in the region. Whats happening in Palestine hurts in the short term but I think average people will forget about it in a year and the US foreign policy will be business as usual. Its brutal to think about but I cant see it going any other way, most of the people upset by whats going on had never heard about gaza before oct 7th.
nujabe · 23m ago
There is absolutely nothing critical to US national security that Israel can provide the United States. When you say “protecting American interests” what you really mean is protecting Israeli interests. America has no national security interest in Israeli settlement expansion in West Bank, Gaza & southern Syria.
The intelligence Israel does provide the US is related to conflicts & terrorist groups that wouldn’t exist if it weren’t for Israel itself.
Literally all the Middle East countries host US military bases and are puppet states of the US anyway so I don’t see how Israel provides any value.
“Israel is an albatross around America’s neck” - John Mearsheimer
US ruling class are Zionists. They are all part of the same club. Doesn’t matter if it is not in the interest of the US state, only that it benefits their own interests.
nwhnwh · 2h ago
As if the US is expected to be good here? The region is important if you want to control the world.
solumunus · 26m ago
It’s not a mystery in my opinion. Israeli and American intelligence are heavily involved with each other. Israel knows all of America’s deepest secrets. The financial ties run deep. Israel has been injecting large quantities of capital into US politics. All of this has been happening for half a century.
It’s only a mystery if you think we pick our allies solely on the basis of whether we think they’re a goody or baddy.
nielsbot · 42m ago
Zero sum game logic. Pursuit of power at the expense of everything else. Capitalism. Take your pick.
It's pretty disgusting.
amanaplanacanal · 2h ago
So evidently a two state solution is off the table, and once all the Palestinians are driven away, a one state solution will become acceptable to Israel.
Is there some other way this could play out?
SilverElfin · 1h ago
Weren’t all two state proposals in the past rejected by one Palestinian leader or the other?
EdwardDiego · 1h ago
Only one Palestinian authority was recognized in the Oslo Accords as representing Palestine, and they've supported it since 1982.
Which is why Israel funded Hamas to weaken the PLO.
Netanyahu became PM in 1996. In his role as PM he signed follow up agreements to Oslo accords and handed over to PA control more parts west bank.
As cabinet minister (in 2004?) he voted 4 times in favor of disengagement from gaza and removal of all jews from there (both life and dead).
Later, when he became PM again, in speech that he gave he affirmed that he supports two state solution as long as palestinian state demilitarized (something that demand now all western countries that recognize it).
nielsbot · 38m ago
I imagine it will play out similarly to the genocide of the Native Americans: Ethnically cleansed or genocided. Any stragglers will live on reservations or the equivalent. Palestinians living under Israeli control will be subject to apartheid a la the Jim Crow South in the US.
I still have a slim hope that this outcome will be averted, but the odds of that lessen by the day.
Israel approves patently illegal West Bank settlement project
The intelligence Israel does provide the US is related to conflicts & terrorist groups that wouldn’t exist if it weren’t for Israel itself.
Literally all the Middle East countries host US military bases and are puppet states of the US anyway so I don’t see how Israel provides any value.
“Israel is an albatross around America’s neck” - John Mearsheimer
https://youtu.be/dqeGW4G_Bmo?si=D5ZiURk4IzFRwiIN
It’s only a mystery if you think we pick our allies solely on the basis of whether we think they’re a goody or baddy.
It's pretty disgusting.
Is there some other way this could play out?
Which is why Israel funded Hamas to weaken the PLO.
https://www.timesofisrael.com/for-years-netanyahu-propped-up...
https://www.jpost.com/arab-israeli-conflict/article-748435
https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog_entry/knesset-overwhe...
As cabinet minister (in 2004?) he voted 4 times in favor of disengagement from gaza and removal of all jews from there (both life and dead).
Later, when he became PM again, in speech that he gave he affirmed that he supports two state solution as long as palestinian state demilitarized (something that demand now all western countries that recognize it).
I still have a slim hope that this outcome will be averted, but the odds of that lessen by the day.