This is a big win for China. Standards of Justice have moved tremendously in open seas.
Whether drugs or information, you don’t want to be on the wrong side of this!
echelon_musk · 5h ago
> When all is said and done, demand a foreign policy that protects Americans and respects the line between war and policing. Demand leadership that values the Constitution at home and credibility abroad.
From whom? The US is entering a post law reality.
jrs235 · 3h ago
Their only belief is might makes right, power above all other principles.
thekevan · 5h ago
This is the norm for the next few years.
rolph · 5h ago
if this actually did happen it is an international crime.
u.s. coastguard has been using force to detain vessels crew, and passengers for quite sometime, by hitting the vessels engines, and boarding the vessel.
you see not everyone is always narco, the feasibility of a vessel operator not knowing drugs are present is there. the possibility of persons having no involvement, or knowledge of drugs is a large one.
refugees, migrants, and trafficked persons would be witnesses, not co-conspirators.
a military naval group, attacking unmilitarized vessels in international water is a big deal, as in maybe a joint forces operation would detain and prosecute a sitting U.S. president, if this actually did happen.
verdverm · 5h ago
It actually happened, the administration sycophants have been gloating about it while making the rounds on "the news"
rolph · 5h ago
i have no problems with the idea being true, but ive seen murk already in some previous posts, such as the suggestion a quite fake looking video was produced, but i havnt seen it.
regardless of veracity, gloating over mass murder has a rather dark palpatine, look to it.
im certain i would see confirmation if i went down the rabbithole
yieldcrv · 5h ago
on X and TruthSocial the accounts in the President's replies post that democrats are defending narcoterrorists
to deflect from the lack of trial that determines whether the killed were narcoterrorists
ethbr1 · 5h ago
Lies and slander!
Obama launched plenty of extrajudicial drone strikes!
AceJohnny2 · 5h ago
it's funny because Obama took control of the drone strikes as a means of oversight because the military were doing it without any oversight under Bush
yieldcrv · 4h ago
I was actually going to write that those accounts in anti-liberal arenas should be happy Obama didn’t wait for trials either, but the difference in doing it against a US citizen abroad was too glaring to make a one liner about
daveguy · 5h ago
I think it's one of the most incompetent moves by this administration yet. You have eyes on a suspected drug smuggling boat. No direct confirmation, and instead of tracking the boat (which they can clearly do) to intercept and apprehend the crew picking up the payload (or at least identify the destination) -- they just blow it up. Like a child knocking down blocks. Hard to tell if it's incompetence or protection of recipients in the US. But what better way to signal to smugglers that you have the means and methods to detect and intercept while also protecting the recipients?
crooked-v · 5h ago
The cruelty is the point.
daveguy · 5h ago
Personally I think incompetence and a malicious push toward authoritarianism is the point. But yeah, they do love that cruelty.
lazide · 5h ago
One thing is for sure, don’t be taking your speedboat out for a joyride anytime soon in the Caribbean.
nomel · 5h ago
> intercept and apprehend the crew picking up the payload
The military stepping foot on the land to do this would be not taken well. They have no authority to invade or intervene, and shots would certainly be fired in the wrong direction. And, the local government has no authority to intervene, at the pickup point, as they're controlled by the cartels. The wider government has no interest in intervening, since it's too profitable.
The alternative is precisely nothing happening, which is the goal, with previously profound success, for the cartels.
It's all bad.
daveguy · 5h ago
The boat was presumably smuggling drugs from Venezuela. They destroyed the boat soon after departure off the coast of Venezuela. Not only did they not have authority to destroy the boat (due process, no declared war -- see GP for typical SOP), they apparently didn't even bother to find out the destination.
Trump and his entire administration are fools. You know it, and I know it. And everyone else knows it.
tharmas · 3h ago
I wonder if its just tRump is more blatantly obvious about flexing American power?
What i mean is America has always done what it wants, its just that before tRump they tried to cloak it to maintain the illusion they were "the good guys".
Whether drugs or information, you don’t want to be on the wrong side of this!
From whom? The US is entering a post law reality.
u.s. coastguard has been using force to detain vessels crew, and passengers for quite sometime, by hitting the vessels engines, and boarding the vessel.
you see not everyone is always narco, the feasibility of a vessel operator not knowing drugs are present is there. the possibility of persons having no involvement, or knowledge of drugs is a large one.
refugees, migrants, and trafficked persons would be witnesses, not co-conspirators.
a military naval group, attacking unmilitarized vessels in international water is a big deal, as in maybe a joint forces operation would detain and prosecute a sitting U.S. president, if this actually did happen.
regardless of veracity, gloating over mass murder has a rather dark palpatine, look to it.
im certain i would see confirmation if i went down the rabbithole
to deflect from the lack of trial that determines whether the killed were narcoterrorists
Obama launched plenty of extrajudicial drone strikes!
The military stepping foot on the land to do this would be not taken well. They have no authority to invade or intervene, and shots would certainly be fired in the wrong direction. And, the local government has no authority to intervene, at the pickup point, as they're controlled by the cartels. The wider government has no interest in intervening, since it's too profitable.
The alternative is precisely nothing happening, which is the goal, with previously profound success, for the cartels.
It's all bad.
Trump and his entire administration are fools. You know it, and I know it. And everyone else knows it.
What i mean is America has always done what it wants, its just that before tRump they tried to cloak it to maintain the illusion they were "the good guys".