This is a big win for China. Standards of Justice have moved tremendously in open seas.
Whether drugs or information, you don’t want to be on the wrong side of this!
echelon_musk · 29m ago
> When all is said and done, demand a foreign policy that protects Americans and respects the line between war and policing. Demand leadership that values the Constitution at home and credibility abroad.
From whom? The US is entering a post law reality.
jauntywundrkind · 40m ago
It seems so so very unlikely that there would be 11 people on a drug running boat.
These people are madness, are wanton murderers.
nomel · 12m ago
> It seems so so very unlikely t
Genuinely, why? If you have $100 million in drugs (who knows how much) on the boat, you're going to need a bunch of hands to hold a bunch of guns to protect it.
To me, 11 people is very reasonable, to protect that much money.
cjbgkagh · 35m ago
That was my first thought, sounds like a lot of overhead and added risk for transporting drugs. A lot of effort was put into making narco subs operable with as few people as possible and some are now even fully automated. This doesn’t pass the sniff test.
rolph · 15m ago
2 possibilities come to mind:
1) double or triple down on your take, by trafficking a bunch of people that want to be somwhere out of venuzuela.
2) when the boat is close to shore, people start grabbing a package or two, and jump out and run for it. maybe a couple miles apart or until the gig is up and the last few run or get caught.
thekevan · 41m ago
This is the norm for the next few years.
rolph · 1h ago
if this actually did happen it is an international crime.
u.s. coastguard has been using force to detain vessels crew, and passengers for quite sometime, by hitting the vessels engines, and boarding the vessel.
you see not everyone is always narco, the feasibility of a vessel operator not knowing drugs are present is there. the possibility of persons having no involvement, or knowledge of drugs is a large one.
refugees, migrants, and trafficked persons would be witnesses, not co-conspirators.
a military naval group, attacking unmilitarized vessels in international water is a big deal, as in maybe a joint forces operation would detain and prosecute a sitting U.S. president, if this actually did happen.
verdverm · 46m ago
It actually happened, the administration sycophants have been gloating about it while making the rounds on "the news"
rolph · 26m ago
i have no problems with the idea being true, but ive seen murk already in some previous posts, such as the suggestion a quite fake looking video was produced, but i havnt seen it.
regardless of veracity, gloating over mass murder has a rather dark palpatine, look to it.
im certain i would see confirmation if i went down the rabbithole
yieldcrv · 42m ago
on X and TruthSocial the accounts in the President's replies post that democrats are defending narcoterrorists
to deflect from the lack of trial that determines whether the killed were narcoterrorists
ethbr1 · 39m ago
Lies and slander!
Obama launched plenty of extrajudicial drone strikes!
AceJohnny2 · 35m ago
it's funny because Obama took control of the drone strikes as a means of oversight because the military were doing it without any oversight under Bush
daveguy · 41m ago
I think it's one of the most incompetent moves by this administration yet. You have eyes on a suspected drug smuggling boat. No direct confirmation, and instead of tracking the boat (which they can clearly do) to intercept and apprehend the crew picking up the payload (or at least identify the destination) -- they just blow it up. Like a child knocking down blocks. Hard to tell if it's incompetence or protection of recipients in the US. But what better way to signal to smugglers that you have the means and methods to detect and intercept while also protecting the recipients?
nomel · 33m ago
> intercept and apprehend the crew picking up the payload
The military stepping foot on the land to do this would be not taken well. They have no authority to invade or intervene, and shots would certainly be fired in the wrong direction. And, the local government has no authority to intervene, at the pickup point, as they're controlled by the cartels. The wider government has no interest in intervening, since it's too profitable.
The alternative is precisely nothing happening, which is the goal, with previously profound success, for the cartels.
It's all bad.
daveguy · 27m ago
The boat was presumably smuggling drugs from Venezuela. They destroyed the boat soon after departure off the coast of Venezuela. Not only did they not have authority to destroy the boat (due process, no declared war -- see GP for typical SOP), they apparently didn't even bother to find out the destination.
Trump and his entire administration are fools. You know it, and I know it. And everyone else knows it.
crooked-v · 35m ago
The cruelty is the point.
daveguy · 18m ago
Personally I think incompetence and a malicious push toward authoritarianism is the point. But yeah, they do love that cruelty.
PKop · 23m ago
What better message than if there's even a hint of you being a smuggler, you will be wiped off the map.
This was one of the best moves of this administration yet.
lazide · 37m ago
One thing is for sure, don’t be taking your speedboat out for a joyride anytime soon in the Caribbean.
PKop · 25m ago
No one's going to do anything about this. We cheer our president for this. Good riddance. International crime? Meaningless impotent nonsense. I'd like to see someone try. The Monroe Doctrine = we own this hemisphere and will do whatever we want to ensure American interests within it.
PKop · 29m ago
Imagine not thinking this was the coolest thing ever. This is what we voted for! Crying over these people is pathetic, that they are no longer around is good for Americans. This is what a strong country does, a weak defeated people twists themselves into knots defending foreigners that bring harm on the country.
daveguy · 9m ago
You don't even have a fucking clue who these people were. Because the evidence was destroyed. Pathetic.
But when are they going to release the Epstein files? (redacted of victim info and abuse material, obviously)
Whether drugs or information, you don’t want to be on the wrong side of this!
From whom? The US is entering a post law reality.
These people are madness, are wanton murderers.
Genuinely, why? If you have $100 million in drugs (who knows how much) on the boat, you're going to need a bunch of hands to hold a bunch of guns to protect it.
To me, 11 people is very reasonable, to protect that much money.
1) double or triple down on your take, by trafficking a bunch of people that want to be somwhere out of venuzuela.
2) when the boat is close to shore, people start grabbing a package or two, and jump out and run for it. maybe a couple miles apart or until the gig is up and the last few run or get caught.
u.s. coastguard has been using force to detain vessels crew, and passengers for quite sometime, by hitting the vessels engines, and boarding the vessel.
you see not everyone is always narco, the feasibility of a vessel operator not knowing drugs are present is there. the possibility of persons having no involvement, or knowledge of drugs is a large one.
refugees, migrants, and trafficked persons would be witnesses, not co-conspirators.
a military naval group, attacking unmilitarized vessels in international water is a big deal, as in maybe a joint forces operation would detain and prosecute a sitting U.S. president, if this actually did happen.
regardless of veracity, gloating over mass murder has a rather dark palpatine, look to it.
im certain i would see confirmation if i went down the rabbithole
to deflect from the lack of trial that determines whether the killed were narcoterrorists
Obama launched plenty of extrajudicial drone strikes!
The military stepping foot on the land to do this would be not taken well. They have no authority to invade or intervene, and shots would certainly be fired in the wrong direction. And, the local government has no authority to intervene, at the pickup point, as they're controlled by the cartels. The wider government has no interest in intervening, since it's too profitable.
The alternative is precisely nothing happening, which is the goal, with previously profound success, for the cartels.
It's all bad.
Trump and his entire administration are fools. You know it, and I know it. And everyone else knows it.
This was one of the best moves of this administration yet.
But when are they going to release the Epstein files? (redacted of victim info and abuse material, obviously)