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> There are a small handful of illumos components for which source code is not available. Over time, we have replaced most of the closed source components from the Sun era with new open source versions. This work is ongoing

https://illumos.org/docs/developers/build/#getting-the-close...

> From this, however, project founder Garrett D'Amore took the last drop of the gate and announced illumos in mid-2010.

https://illumos.org/docs/about/history/

mikewarot · 1h ago

As a Hoosier... I had to check the relevance... and learned it's basically a fork^3 of Solaris, a Sun operating system.

OpenIndiana[3] <-- Illumos[2] <-- OpenSolaris[1] <-- Solaris[0]

Note: I guessed here at <-- meaning fork of... any other options I should have used instead?

[3] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenIndiana

[2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Illumos

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenSolaris

[0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oracle_Solaris

mbreese · 1h ago

From: https://docs.openindiana.org/misc/openindiana/#what-is-the-o...

> Why is it called OpenIndiana?

> OpenIndiana obtains its name from Project Indiana, an open source effort by Sun Microsystems (now Oracle Corporation) to produce OpenSolaris, a community developed Unix-like distribution based on Sun Solaris. Project Indiana was led by Ian Murdock, founder of the Debian Linux Distribution.

(I never understood the naming either)

But here's an ArsTechnica article from 2007 talking more about those origins from back when Sun was still trying to win back marketshare from Linux. It had long since lost that war, but was still trying to stay relevant.

https://arstechnica.com/uncategorized/2007/07/understanding-...

Illumos based OS's have been kicking around a lot longer than I anticipated.

chasil · 57m ago

I have also used SmartOS, which imports KVM from Linux.

It is odd to boot it and see sendmail running from my native ksh93 root login.

https://www.tritondatacenter.com/smartos

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SmartOS

johnisgood · 1h ago

There is OmniOS[1] as well, fits next to OpenIndiana.

https://omnios.org.

vinc · 29m ago

I've been using OpenIndiana for a file server in my homelab since it came out and it's been quietly doing its job ever since without much issues. Coming from Linux it's not easy to find the equivalent commands of what I do on my other servers but it's also what I like about this project, it's another flavor of Unix to learn.

splatter9859 · 1h ago

Wow. Illumos / Solaris is still kicking, eh?

Really too bad Solaris didn’t stick around and was so horribly mismanaged by Sun.

Solaris and Vax/VMS is where I started my career decades ago, and still brings back memories.

steveklabnik · 7m ago

It still is!

At Oxide, we have our own illumos (in my understanding, you're supposed to lowercase the i) distribution, discussed on HN a while back https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=39178521

tracker1 · 30m ago

I think a lot of decisions that eventually lead to the Oracle buyout were all pretty bad and Oracle itself being where good ideas go to die. As bad as MS is at extracting value out of its windows users, Oracle seems to fleece it's enterprise customers far, far worse. I don't think I would ever choose Oracle or IBM for anything.

It would be interesting to see a little more diversity in common operating systems in the wild though. Linux has pretty much taken over the server space, and iOS/Android have split the more common usage outside that, with what's left of desktop still mostly Windows.

I still think there's opportunity for something like Flutter as a cross-platform library that actually works with multiple backing languages.

shrubble · 55m ago

I’m of the opinion that the acquisition of Sun by Oracle was the worst possible outcome; it guaranteed that Solaris would decline.

thevillagechief · 41m ago

Still mad at IBM for screwing the pooch on that one. They basically handed the company to Oracle.

glhaynes · 2m ago

Did IBM consider purchasing Sun?

geephroh · 1h ago

It (Solaris) was also the origin of ZFS, if I'm not mistaken.

tedivm · 18m ago

I've spent two minutes look at this website and I still have no idea what this project is.

rwolf · 13m ago

https://docs.openindiana.org/misc/openindiana/ looks like what you wanted, was not straightforward to get there from the homepage.

simne · 1h ago

Look to figure out what is it: https://docs.openindiana.org/misc/openindiana/

To be short, it is opensource implementation of SUN Solaris OS. I don't know if it is already developed much.

johnisgood · 1h ago

I have to say, that I really loved OpenSolaris. I really have to try OpenIndiana. Can anyone tell me about their package manager?

hualapais · 29m ago

OI uses IPS packaging, which is the same packaging used by Solaris 11 (some find it over engineered). Tribblix, on the other hand, is also an illumos-based distro but is based on Solaris 10 (and prior’s) SVR4 packaging which is managed via a utility called “zap”.

Both are good distributions, but I strongly encourage you to try Tribblix if OI is problematic; for whatever reason the latest OI installers do not seem to include the same amount of driver support as Tribblix, in my experience.

jtbayly · 1h ago

I can’t figure out what this is from anything on the site. I suppose I need to know what Illumos is? My best guess is that it is an OS?

mindcrime · 1h ago

Solaris, basically. Illumos was derived from the old OpenSolaris project. I don't know how much it's diverged, as I don't really follow this much. But that's more or less what it is.

sgt · 45m ago

Maybe the Perifractic equivalent of the Sun fanworld can buy the Solaris trademark and rename it!