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A ChatGPT Pro subscription costs 38.6 months of income in low-income countries
43 WasimBhai 70 8/11/2025, 6:11:59 AM policykahani.substack.com ↗
Why? I don't see a practical argument for why Google would want to offer this service at a massive loss.
Of course, someone from a low income nation is most likely to go to university in their own country which is a whole lot cheaper (and a lot of low and middle income countries have free or subsidised university education - which is why British hospitals were historically had lots of South Asian doctors, and now Africans). If their own country does not offer the right degree or demand for limited places is very high they can study in another low or middle income country (I know Sri Lankans who have studied in India).
¹ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/False_equivalence
² Nor do they cost the same everywhere.
³ In the sense that it’s not a subscription. I get that in the US you may be paying for student loans for an unreasonably long time, but that’s not normal for the rest of the world.
The actual cost of a CS degree varies a lot depending on the country, but here in Vietnam I think it's about $1000 per term at public universities. That's not cheap, it's about a year at minimum wage here. But it's a long, long way from your claim of 124 years.
And to forestall the obvious next claim: Vietnamese education is quite good actually. Maybe you won't be going to Harvard but there's plenty of universities in the top 1000 worldwide with a few in the top 200 (no idea for the ranking for CS specifically though).
£9,535/year * 3 year degree / 124 years ~= £231/year ~= 310 USD/year
UN estimates GDP/capita of Yemen and Burundi were less than this, that Tajikistan has lower gross average monthly wages. Those are nominal, not PPP.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_GDP_(nomi...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_average_w...
The World Bank numbers here are adjusted for cost of living, say that 1.31% of the world population are living on a dollar a day: https://ourworldindata.org/explorers/poverty-explorer?tab=li...
https://educationdata.org/average-cost-of-college-by-country
A lot of people do though. There are lots of international students, many from low and middle income countries. Obviously from high income families.
> It's normal for international student tuition fees to be inflated by many universities, they try to collect some extra revenue based on a perceived extra prestige,
In the UK the government heavily subsidises the fees of British students (basically defined as having lived in the UK for the previous three years, other than on a student visa - there are some other complexities but that is the simple version) whereas overseas fees are the full market rate.
> Similar to charging different prices for tourists than for locals.
Not a thing in the UK.
Sadly, no, £9k/year is the price for UK students. International students studying in the UK have much higher costs: https://www.uniadmissions.co.uk/international-students/inter...
> Why would someone in Yemen have to go to UK to get a CS degree when they have multiple universities offering the same course.
Same reason they'd be using an American AI company instead of a cheaper one that e.g. runs on their phone.
You are factually wrong, a Yemeni does not need to pay 100+ years of salary to get a CS degree, end of story.
Also, I've been a researcher and have few scientific papers published (you can search for my name on scholar: Enrico Polanski) and I've seen ZERO evidence that a student from Harvard or Imperial to be more knowledgeable than one in unnamed universities from the third world you've never heard about. None.
It's way too personal and student dependent. Plenty of people in ivy league famous colleges study to ace exams and don't remember shit few weeks later. Plenty of people in unnamed universities are genuinely curious.
Your college makes very little difference in how prepared you will be. Single teachers/courses may have an impact, but the location very little.
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> You are factually wrong, a Yemeni does not need to pay 100+ years of salary to get a CS degree, end of story.
So far as I can tell, the like-for-like comparison is as per the other commenter you responded to: here's a fancy thing rich people in rich countries use, therefore the comparison is to a rich country's degree.
This is because you also don't need to pay 38.6 months of income to get access to an AI. Not even to access OpenAI's best. And even the downgrade after usage limits is not terrible.
Of course, if you don't like this comparison, then sure, I'd accept what you say. I'm disagreeing about the assumptions of what's comparable here.
> I've seen ZERO evidence that a student from Harvard or Imperial to be more knowledgeable than one in unnamed universities from the third world you've never heard about.
Mm. Tempted to agree even without looking you up: I'm British, so my reference point for "fancy university isn't automatically great" is half the British politicians.
OTOH, after I graduated, I did live in Cambridge (UK) for nearly a decade, and I do miss how incredibly densely packed it was with nerds, it's not something I found in other places.
You can't compare the cost of a degree in the US with how much that person would pay in their country (even for a top uni there)
And even if you literally compare US costs, that person would probably be eligible to scholarships etc (if they manage to be selected, of course)
It's an international economy problem, not an AI problem.
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Just remember that a Wal Mart $50 phone is faster than a supercomputer from the 70s/80s. Prices will go down.
I thought China fixed this for most of the world, at least for Africa it's fixed. It's the Internet access being the bottleneck now.
How is it fixed for Africa? Africa has a ton of phones, but it does not have a lot of smart phones. There is a reason that SMS and USSD are corner stones of the african digital economy.
There are more than 8 billion people on this world. By your own account, 3 billion of them do not have smart phones.
> The device hurdle is gone.
Evidently not. There are a lot of countries that still have a smartphone penetration rate of <50%.
We're talking about people with low income here. We're talking about people that cannot even afford bicycles for transportation.
- The latest concept sports car costs a few lifetimes of income in low-income countries
- Aircraft carrier costs 200 GDP of Tuvalu
> if you made a metric like 'Number of Nobel laureates per large bodies of water'
That's a strawman argument.
someone has to pay for the servers at the end. are you asking for openai to subsidize ChatGPT Pro for low-income countries? Since OpenAI is for-profit entity focussed on profits, I don't think it might be a wise idea financially for OpenAI to do so.
There are still many countries where digital literacy is very low.
So first step is to ensure everyone has internet/mobile phone/laptop and knows how to use them.
Not that the rural third world don’t already have phones. Whether they are engineering to be as addictive as crack like in the west I’m not sure.
Messages above ~65k tokens are rejected. Messages between about 50k-65k are accepted, but the right-side of the text is pruned before the LLM call is made. Messages just below ~50k are accepted, but are then partly "forgot" on any follow up questions (either the entire first prompt is excluded, or the left-side of the text is chopped off).
Realistically, it's a 55-65k token limit (40k token question, 15k token response).
They want you to attach your context so they can use RAG.
I can't even be bothered filing a bug report, because I know this shit is intentional. The mistakes always run in a favorable direction.
(GPT-5-Pro is a genuinely good model however, and usage limits are generous)
Albeit I'm no economist, I'm quite sure you should compare salaries to costs, not gdp/capita. Whether unemployed/retirees and children can afford a ChatGPT pro subscription seems irrelevant.
Let's take Madagascar, GDP per capita is $ 538. But the average salary is above $ 150/ month.
What interests us really though is not really the average salary in the country, rather the white collar (the end user's) worker's one.
In Madagascar software engineering salaries seems to range from an average $ 850/month for junior roles to well beyond $ 2000 per senior/specialized roles.
And this further ignores that such expenses are generally paid by employees, often with bulk discounts compared to B2C customers.
Which leads us to conclude that if ChatGPT Pro is such a performance multiplier, it is worth the price even in the poorest of the poorest countries in the world.
1. the companies don’t get any cheaper compute because a user is from a low-income country.
2. this is an AI subscription, it’s purely a luxury product. We do not need this to survive. If you can’t afford it, don’t buy it.
Median people from the Democratic Republic of Congo will have to work for 6 years to pay a PG&E bill.
Seriously, what is the point of this observation? Few if any workers earning low wages have any use for a ChatGPT Pro subscription?
Have a look at industrial accident data globally, considering underreporting in developing nations.
- Same, environmental accidents.
- Same, WMD proliferation, including chem, bio and nuclear.
- Same, malicious cyber.
Now, ask yourself if we have enough problems aligning & regulating AI at the moment?
Are we sure that in the name of laudable egalitarian ideals that we are prepared for the second and third order effects of broad global accessibility to AI, including frontier models?
But tbe chart on that page shows very high productivity