Vanishing from Hyundai’s data network

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Comments (14)

zdw · 1h ago
I'm fearing the day when my quite old ICE car dies and I end up in a situation where the best option is a newer car that is a computer on wheels running software that I know will stop getting updates very quickly.

Of all the new cars ideas I've seen recently, only the Slate mini-truck seems to be taking a minimalist approach, with no fancy head unit or navigation system.

Terr_ · 53m ago
I'm hopeful that stuff like Android Auto / Apple CarPlay will keep moving some of the stupid complexity out of the giant expensive long-lived machine and into smaller easier-to-fix ones.

Basically the car's head-display becomes mostly controlled by your phone, so that's what supplies GPS, music, podcasts, a data-connection, etc. With the right vehicles/adapters, I don't even need to take my phone out of my pocket, which is handy because then I don't forget it in the car.

esalman · 10m ago
There's no way they're going to keep a modular car functioning for years without relying on frequent software updates.
layoric · 52m ago
Same, early 2010s IMO seems to be the point where the industry really started to shift. There are some good cars from before this time, but keep them running past the 2030s will be a challenge.
gonzo41 · 34m ago
Consider an electric cargo bike if you're life will suite it.
judge123 · 56m ago
I'm starting to think the short software support isn't a bug, it's a feature. They want the car to feel obsolete in 5 years so you're pushed into buying the next model. It's the smartphone sales model, but for a $50,000 purchase.
shawn_w · 50m ago
Planned obsolescence
awesome_dude · 34m ago
Planned Obsolescence 2.0 - they can tell the system when it's time to die.
mensetmanusman · 47m ago
The govt should fund $1,000,000 bug bounties on these vehicles. If anyone succeeds in remotely gaining access to the mic, car companies are fined $100,000,000.
0cf8612b2e1e · 50m ago
If they had just clipped the antenna wires, how likely would that have disabled all outbound communication? Clearly not as good as disconnecting the modem (which removed some software checks), but more approachable without the multi hour disassembly.
Arainach · 32m ago
You generally have to disassemble far more annoying things to get to the antenna than to remove the head unit.
ungreased0675 · 20m ago
A better way might be to install dummy loads on the antenna outputs.
Terr_ · 55m ago
On the less-technical side, Hyundai has a mechanism to "Delete personal information" [0] that might be worth doing just to round things out.

> one step of which involved removing this "garnish" panel behind the screen. Easier said than done

Different model, but same experience: I really hate situations where the secret is "a suspicious amount of force", especially if there's no sufficiently trustworthy/detailed information showing that things can be pulled or pried in a certain manner.

[0] https://owners.hyundaiusa.com/us/en/privacy/data-request/new...

nothercastle · 58m ago
I guess the next thing is to kill the black box and you are set.