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From a health perspective I think they find themselves in an odd spot, at least from my perspective. Absolutely there are other products on the market that are similar with similarly high amounts of salt.

I also see it as "highly processed" food which if you're not looking to eat meat you might also be looking for an alternative to meat that isn't any more processed than red meat, of which Beyond Meat is more processed.

Velorivox · 3h ago

Does this headline need to state it is an opinion? I didn't see this as a "fact" anywhere in TFA.

hnfong · 2h ago

Who the heck downvoted the parent comment?

This isn't a news article, it's an opinion from some journalist who thinks Beyond Meat is doomed for bankruptcy. I googled "beyond meat chapter 11" and this HN discussion is on the second spot.

Interestingly I noticed a prediction site currently with ~30% chance of that happening by 2026: https://www.metaculus.com/questions/12112/will-beyond-meat-f...

theLegionWithin · 4h ago

they never managed to get the cost down to near the price of actual meat, despite the ingredients being dirt cheap. overhead and/or greed?

glad they're failing

xenospn · 5m ago

Actual meat is highly subsidized. There’s no way for them to compete on price alone. That was never going to be the case.

odyssey7 · 2h ago

It’s always disappointing to me, as someone who does not want to eat meat, when I see the vegetarian option is a beyond burger, the most aesthetically similar meat analogue they could think of.

Not to call out Beyond Meat specifically. I stopped eating the Burger King veggie burger when they switched from their Morningstar patties to the Impossible Whopper.

wenc · 2h ago

I didn't know BK stopped offering veggie burgers.

There used to be the Veggie burger and the Impossible Whopper, and they were two completely different products.

As a meat eater, I'm a big fan of the Impossible Whopper. It does taste different from the regular Whopper, but it's just as good. That's how good Impossible is (better than Beyond any day).

Neither are healthy, but if I had to stop eating meat, I would have no trouble with the Impossible Whopper.

sneak · 2h ago

Impossible’s product is a zillion times better than Beyond’s. It’s a mistake to conflate them.

I’m glad Beyond is going away, hopefully this means the people who were serving them switch to Impossible, which is actually good.

EGreg · 2h ago

As a meat eater I can tell you that for me I just need to feel something substantial and somewhat large I can bite into and that doesnt give way right away. Something seared on a flame. Maybe a nice savory flavor too.

So for example biting into celery or bread with a crust gives that feeling. Whereas salads and rice, small beans etc. lack these elements. It’s just some mushy mass of small things going into your mouth, you don’t get to really use your teeth much at all.

So it’s not really the burger aspect at all for me. As a chef I could probably whip up a lot of vegetarian options that scratch that itch for carnivorous humans.

112233 · 2h ago

I think I understand what you mean. I.e. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ajapsandali for me is a very "meaty" dish despite having none, while "pirates" kids' pork sausage from Lidl is not "meaty", despite being almost meat-only.

sneak · 2h ago

I think this is just a personal preference and has nothing to do with meat. I was a meat eater for many years and love meat, but even then I would go for weeks sometimes when I was busy on just Soylent meal replacement shakes (which are vegan, and liquid, so no biting at all).

It’s just a habit, what you’re used to. You can adjust.

deterministic · 3h ago

Good. The "food" they were producing was anything but healthy.

cranberryturkey · 4h ago

haha. i still have never tried it.

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