One random cop makes one ignorant statement and now all "cops in Spain" think something.
munchler · 2h ago
> “Every time we see a Google Pixel, we suspect it might belong to a drug dealer,” said a police official leading the anti-drug operation in Catalonia
Not a random cop, but the leader of an entire operation.
adolph · 2h ago
A less than random cop but still anecdata of one. Maybe an RCT of Spanish police attitudes towards crime-associated tech brands would be more convincing of a thesis broader than “one journalist heard one cop.”
munchler · 1h ago
You do understand that he speaks for a number of cops at once, not just himself, right?
I think he just made a self-aware observation: noticing a trait being unusually common among criminals he investigates makes him subconsciously associate it with crime even in the general population. Then somebody decided to translate "puede ser" as "must be" and put it in the headline to bait Pixel owners, and now the self-aware cop just looks ignorant instead.
mistrial9 · 1h ago
this comment seems to indicate a tip of the iceburg situation in law enforcement-at-scale versus crime-at-scale! human (and tech) evolution demand innovations, yet self-motivated predatory peoples also can be quick to benefit and adapt new tech. lots of quick corollaries available from this..
42lux · 3h ago
I've seen news shows at my grandparents that talked about the rage of the masses while quoting three tweets for hours.
Fogest · 3h ago
I've seen so many YouTuber's doing this too. They'll make a 30 minute video showing a few low comment reddit threads and some upset tweets.
yapyap · 2h ago
When a Twitch streamer goes off on a rant because of a comment one person left its called getting “one guy’d”
skybrian · 46m ago
The headline is exaggerated to make the cops sound like idiots. If they suspect someone might be a drug dealer (fair - it's a clue), that's very different from thinking they "must" be a drug dealer.
ysofunny · 3h ago
the police in spain act like anybody using cloudflare is pirating something, so it kinda checks out
anthk · 2h ago
s,police,laliga,g
prmoustache · 2h ago
Isn't it the justice system enforcing La Liga's bullshit? I don't think the police is involved in this.
elnatro · 3h ago
ClodFlare does not want to comply with court rulings. Not in Spain, nor in France.
throw123xz · 1h ago
Which court rulings in Spain Cloudflare doesn't want to comply with?
hibikir · 1h ago
It's not quite that. LaLiga got a ruling (310/2024, Dec-18-2024) So that they can demand Spanish ISPs to block IPS that LaLiga claims are used to pirate soccer games. But as one would expect, piracy like this involves some CDNing, and therefore CloudFlare IPs. But since those don't necessarily point to individual customers on the other side, in practice it means parts of the internet don't work well in Spain while a game is going on, as the IP blocks that are deemed to be full of piracy are hosting all kinds of other things.
So the issue isn't whether piracy is getting stopped or not, but that the blast radius hits a whole lot of people, including other cloudflare customers.
devwastaken · 3h ago
their opinion is from their dept reflected in their meetings and street corner conversations. if there were accountability that officer would not feel safe saying that.
netsharc · 3h ago
If they're wearing a Casio F91W, then they're a terrorist AND a drug dealer!
For Gen-Zers, that's the watch everyone's dad and older millenials used to wear everywhere in the world.
seabrookmx · 2h ago
'90 kid here. I have one on my wrist 90% if the time. Cheap, practical, and if I crash on my MTB or scratch it up while I'm gardening, it's no big deal.
ls-a · 2h ago
we found him
prmoustache · 2h ago
my 11 year old daughter has one too. And she asked for it.
I think that was because of Shakira's song against her ex.
croisillon · 1h ago
I'm worth two 22-year-olds
You traded in a Ferrari for a Twingo
You traded in a Rolex for a Casio
if anything your daughter should wear a Rolex?
prmoustache · 1h ago
Well it depends which side she took. I didn't really asked for a reasonning but if that new girlfriend is the reason her ex dumped her, that mean she is not that bad and a Casio may not be that inferior to a Rolex (which would anyway have led to a straight no had she asked for it). After all, a Casio F-91W is more reliable than a Rolex to give time and has other features such as an alarm clock.
I think Casio in some latin countries played with it as meme on twitter at the time.
I also think a Twingo is overall a much better car than any Ferrari for daily and lawful use.
torbid · 1h ago
I guess that's a question of whether you like the musician or the music. In the arc of the song, the boyfriend clearly developed good taste.
Mr-Frog · 1h ago
In other words, drug dealers are privacy-conscious and the Google Pixel is one of the strongest hardware platforms for privacy-aware configurations.
bapak · 1h ago
> GrapheneOS boasts particularly secure and well-executed full disk and metadata encryption, a security feature
So, the default iPhone experience?
SoftTalker · 1h ago
Yeah I would have guessed it was more the easy availability of cheap android burner phones than Google Pixel specifically.
lazide · 1h ago
Maybe they can also sideload custom apps that would never pass App Store review?
bapak · 1h ago
Being in Europe, I think that's not an issue for iOS anymore.
lazide · 1h ago
They can use alternative AppStore’s now, but that isn’t sideloading. It still is a centralized place to track/attack/control what I can do. Which would be a problem for someone doing something illegal in that same jurisdiction.
Also, if I was doing something illegal, the other controls Apple has over iOS would make me reconsider using it, even with the ‘other AppStores’.
At least if I’m flashing my own OS, and installing things directly and locally, I can think I’m bypassing most factory level spyware and without centralized monitoring. In theory at least.
subroutine · 2h ago
This "Almost Friday" skit about the Google Pixel is comedy gold...
Both the translation and the original news are like one paragraph long with 0 context or source.
It’s also quite ridiculous, I’m from Madrid and pixels seem to be the phone of choice for most of my (non tech) friends.
Pixels used to be quite unknown, as most people go for budget Chinese brands, now they’re getting popular. “Get an iPhone-level camera for 300 bucks” is a massive selling point.
k4rli · 3h ago
Latest Pixels are nearly 1k EUR though. Slightly too expensive but still a top pick for me.
prmoustache · 2h ago
Latest highest end model. The "a" model are more in the 550€ area and still have super decent camera, especially if you aren't a selphie addict.
Being the models with the longest firmware support, it is not uncommon for people to buy them second hand at around 300€. I bought my Pixel 6a last year for around 200€.
elnatro · 2h ago
Ara is a pro-secessionist diary so take their news about the national police in Spain with a pinch of salt.
dofubej · 2h ago
That’s the Mossos, not the national police of Spain.
elnatro · 2h ago
Then the title is wrong and should mention that “A Catalan policeman says that…”.
prmoustache · 2h ago
Mossos aren't policemen.
pier25 · 58m ago
Yeah they are. Their official name is literally "Policia de la Generalitat de Catalunya".
Mossos are the Police of Catalonia modulo borders, counterterrorism and higher duties which are dealt by the Guardia Civil (akin to Gendarmerie).
MitPitt · 1h ago
Sounds like an astroturfing stunt from either Google or GrapheneOS
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amelius · 2h ago
Or a GrapheneOS user ...
metalman · 2h ago
The police in Spain can thank there lucky stars that they are not dealing with the drug gangs in Mexico and South America, where they are flying militerised drones, and are trying to build narco drone subs with starlink
Spain is one of the biggest gateways of drugs into Europe (if not the biggest one). They've been dealing with LATAM mafia for decades.
lupusreal · 1h ago
They have been, at least a little. They've captured narco subs crossing the Atlantic, including to Spain specifically. The cartels must have trusted associates in Europe to receive these shipments, and that probably means violent enforcers of the cartels in Europe. With unmanned narco subs making longer voyages simpler, this is likely to become an even bigger problem.
They tried, but the Europeans Mafias know that if the violence hits the fan and craps out civilians (non-gang related members), these would be crushed down in miliseconds.
The CNI is no joke and it has -ahem- nonstandard methods to deal with these scum. Spain has grown a huge counterterrorism wisdom over decades.
grg0 · 3h ago
Now we just need every other citizen to understand the benefits of GrapheneOS. Glad to see some people are catching up.
noman-land · 3h ago
We also need a better boot screen experience.
thro230-0 · 2h ago
Australia gov thinks everyone with penis is a rapist, so they banned men from childcare. Sadly adult women are still unprotected, we need to ban men from society!!!
https://grapheneos.social/@GrapheneOS/114784469162979608 thread lists same activity in Swedish-speaking parts of the internet.
Not a random cop, but the leader of an entire operation.
So the issue isn't whether piracy is getting stopped or not, but that the blast radius hits a whole lot of people, including other cloudflare customers.
Many years ago: https://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-13194733
I think that was because of Shakira's song against her ex.
I think Casio in some latin countries played with it as meme on twitter at the time.
I also think a Twingo is overall a much better car than any Ferrari for daily and lawful use.
So, the default iPhone experience?
Also, if I was doing something illegal, the other controls Apple has over iOS would make me reconsider using it, even with the ‘other AppStores’.
At least if I’m flashing my own OS, and installing things directly and locally, I can think I’m bypassing most factory level spyware and without centralized monitoring. In theory at least.
https://youtu.be/faabxveeoZo
It’s also quite ridiculous, I’m from Madrid and pixels seem to be the phone of choice for most of my (non tech) friends.
Pixels used to be quite unknown, as most people go for budget Chinese brands, now they’re getting popular. “Get an iPhone-level camera for 300 bucks” is a massive selling point.
Being the models with the longest firmware support, it is not uncommon for people to buy them second hand at around 300€. I bought my Pixel 6a last year for around 200€.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mossos_d%27Esquadra
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https://maritime-executive.com/article/colombian-navy-captur...
The CNI is no joke and it has -ahem- nonstandard methods to deal with these scum. Spain has grown a huge counterterrorism wisdom over decades.
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