China is laughing at the West's lack of 'stamina'. It has a point

6 axiologist 7 5/8/2025, 11:32:43 AM telegraph.co.uk ↗

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manfromchina1 · 7h ago
> For once, Chinese engineers and scientists didn’t steal intellectual property but used declassified US documents on projects that the West had abandoned and developed them.

Oh wow. I dont think BeiDou Nav Sat System, HarmonyOS, Loongson&Zhaoxin CPUs, high speed Maglev trains (that use homegrown proprietary tech/design/material/engineering), Jinhdong warehouses etc are stolen.

Obviously, there is an argument to be made for how all of the above is based on papers and prototypes that originate in the west. However the same argument also applies to a lot of tech that originates in, say, the US. For example, the US Internet grew out of British packet switching theory(Donald Davies), GPUs rely on parallel computing theories from Japan and Europe etc.

MarkusWandel · 7h ago
It gets really fuzzy about what technology is stolen, legally appropriated etc. Engineering is continuous improvement.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transrapid

That was the original high-speed maglev train. The western market didn't go for it and development was abandoned. China took it and ran with it. So who invented it, really? And does it even matter any more?

FrankWilhoit · 6h ago
It is very much too late to diagnose a lack of seriousness. China -- Zhongguo, literally "the country that is the center of the world" -- may point and laugh, as one once did at lepers, but soon enough they will learn that there is no safe distance. Devolution is contagious.

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axiologist · 8h ago
duxup · 7h ago
Apparently this is just a sort of spin “argument” about nuclear reactors the lesson is that China is going slow with research?

I honestly don’t get how the meme like PR statements about this situation apply at all…

incomingpain · 7h ago
tortoise vs the hare analogy doesnt work well when there isnt even a race. The USA withdrew from the race with decoupling tariffs.

Humanity needs redundancy and resilience. We dont have that when all medical products are produced in china. The move means we produce them in north america, asia, and europe. We create jobs back home and have secure supply chains.

This unfortunately does mean harsh times for china who needs to adapt. Whereas north american point of view is just job creation.

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