And I’d like to add it also should not be so difficult architecture-wise. As an experienced (10+ yrs) iOS/macOS developer, when I start a new project, I have to do a ton of architecture to have a correct project base, and I find it weird. It should be builtin. At least we should have something, which I could change if I would disagree with the chosen architecture, but currently we have just pretty much nothing.
criddell · 1h ago
I think everything Brent says applies far beyond Mac and iOS apps. The engine + interpreted DSL architecture just makes so much sense.
Are there other examples of software built this way?
dlachausse · 52m ago
Tcl/Tk is a good example of this.
I would love to see a modernized mobile compatible rethinking of Tcl/Tk.
criddell · 31m ago
Except Tcl/Tk doesn't use native controls. I like the Tcl language, but the UI always looks and feels weird. A fork that uses native controls and adhere's to platform conventions would be nice. For example, on iOS app settings should be in the system settings app.
dlachausse · 5m ago
It actually does use some native controls on Windows and macOS. On Linux and UNIX it is meant to look like Motif, which was the most popular toolkit on those platforms at the time.
There’s also the themed Ttk package which has some themes that look more modern…
And I’d like to add it also should not be so difficult architecture-wise. As an experienced (10+ yrs) iOS/macOS developer, when I start a new project, I have to do a ton of architecture to have a correct project base, and I find it weird. It should be builtin. At least we should have something, which I could change if I would disagree with the chosen architecture, but currently we have just pretty much nothing.
Are there other examples of software built this way?
I would love to see a modernized mobile compatible rethinking of Tcl/Tk.
There’s also the themed Ttk package which has some themes that look more modern…
https://wiki.tcl-lang.org/page/Ttk
Brent seems to have something else in mind. I think many people would appreciate some other engine+DSL options.