How is this different from a nonprofit club that owns land/facilities?
I'm not saying this can or can't work but this isn't a new funding model.
imtringued · 28m ago
The model doesn't make sense the way they presented it.
If you simply return the money that would have gone towards paying off the building, then how does the cooperative grow and acquire more properties?
If the cooperative acquires new properties via loans to rent out, then the cooperative has committed itself to the mortgage, but the tenant has not. Not just that, but the cooperative has to return almost the entire principal, meaning that it would have to sell the property to clear the debt the moment a tenant leaves.
I'm not saying this model can't work. It could work under two restrictions:
1. If you want to move out, you must find a tenant to succeed you. If you want to cash out, you can sell your shares to the new tenant at a discount.
2. You can only use your shares for renting another property or transfer your shares to a different housing cooperative.
With these two rules the cooperatives won't be stuck with stranded real estate and the cooperative network grows over time.
NoahZuniga · 22m ago
> I'm not saying this model can't work. It could work under two restrictions ...
I mean, this is fundamentally the same issue that banks have. You cash out the money you have a bank at any time you like, but the bank can't demand back the loans it issues. As long as enough people don't decide to move out at the same time, they should be fine and not get a "bank run". Also it says in the article that they all have a long wait-list, so they should be able to fill your spot pretty quickly (even if the current tenant doesn't find a replacement tenant).
> ... new residents buy shares to gain admission to the building ...
> When a resident moves out, their shares are returned at face value. There is no capital gain.
That sounds a lot like renting but with a deposit. This article is annoying, because renting isn't fundamentally different because its a non-profit renting out the units.
Edit: just read a bit further, and it says:
> The couple needed to buy shares for around 25,000 francs ($31,000) ...
That's a lot of money, and this explains why it's possible to offer such a lower rent.
> ... the rent: 2,400 francs... We realized that a commercial apartment of the same size would be around 1,000 francs more expensive
The co-op could rent out the apartment without the large deposit for 1,000 francs more, so if you look at the deposit as a loan, this means that the co-op is paying about 1,000 / 25,000 = 4% interest on the deposit.
If we look at the past performance of a European stock index (I arbitrarily chose STOXX Europe 600) we can see that the annualized return over the last 20 years was ~3.5%. The anualized return for your money converting to USD and buying S&P 500 20 years ago, then converting back to EUR is ~6.4%. Because your "investment" into a co-op isn't diversified, it is conceivable that these co-ops are riskier than investing in an index.
So it's not clear that this is actually a good deal for the renters.
> The city of Lausanne gave the co-op a 90-year lease that was cheaper than other housing projects, and bought shares in the co-op for lower-income residents. Natacha Litzistorf, the city councilwoman in Lausanne in charge of housing, architecture and the environment, said cooperative housing can help forestall the extreme segregation of rich and poor and help a city live “at peace with itself.”
The capital requirement is fulfilled by the government for poorer renters. This fact, together with "gave a 90-year lease that was cheaper than other housing projects" makes this work like a rent subsidization scheme.
I'm not saying this can or can't work but this isn't a new funding model.
If you simply return the money that would have gone towards paying off the building, then how does the cooperative grow and acquire more properties?
If the cooperative acquires new properties via loans to rent out, then the cooperative has committed itself to the mortgage, but the tenant has not. Not just that, but the cooperative has to return almost the entire principal, meaning that it would have to sell the property to clear the debt the moment a tenant leaves.
I'm not saying this model can't work. It could work under two restrictions:
1. If you want to move out, you must find a tenant to succeed you. If you want to cash out, you can sell your shares to the new tenant at a discount.
2. You can only use your shares for renting another property or transfer your shares to a different housing cooperative.
With these two rules the cooperatives won't be stuck with stranded real estate and the cooperative network grows over time.
I mean, this is fundamentally the same issue that banks have. You cash out the money you have a bank at any time you like, but the bank can't demand back the loans it issues. As long as enough people don't decide to move out at the same time, they should be fine and not get a "bank run". Also it says in the article that they all have a long wait-list, so they should be able to fill your spot pretty quickly (even if the current tenant doesn't find a replacement tenant).
That sounds a lot like renting but with a deposit. This article is annoying, because renting isn't fundamentally different because its a non-profit renting out the units.
Edit: just read a bit further, and it says:
> The couple needed to buy shares for around 25,000 francs ($31,000) ...
That's a lot of money, and this explains why it's possible to offer such a lower rent.
> ... the rent: 2,400 francs... We realized that a commercial apartment of the same size would be around 1,000 francs more expensive
The co-op could rent out the apartment without the large deposit for 1,000 francs more, so if you look at the deposit as a loan, this means that the co-op is paying about 1,000 / 25,000 = 4% interest on the deposit.
If we look at the past performance of a European stock index (I arbitrarily chose STOXX Europe 600) we can see that the annualized return over the last 20 years was ~3.5%. The anualized return for your money converting to USD and buying S&P 500 20 years ago, then converting back to EUR is ~6.4%. Because your "investment" into a co-op isn't diversified, it is conceivable that these co-ops are riskier than investing in an index.
So it's not clear that this is actually a good deal for the renters.
> The city of Lausanne gave the co-op a 90-year lease that was cheaper than other housing projects, and bought shares in the co-op for lower-income residents. Natacha Litzistorf, the city councilwoman in Lausanne in charge of housing, architecture and the environment, said cooperative housing can help forestall the extreme segregation of rich and poor and help a city live “at peace with itself.”
The capital requirement is fulfilled by the government for poorer renters. This fact, together with "gave a 90-year lease that was cheaper than other housing projects" makes this work like a rent subsidization scheme.