This is an amazing thing, hope smoking remains low and betting in general gets under control as well. Then phones and social networks.
vinni2 · 2h ago
And weed consumption is high.
amrocha · 2h ago
Everyone is doing coke instead
moi2388 · 2h ago
“ recent research indicating that any level of alcohol consumption may negatively affect health”
Really now? Any amount? So you claim you can detect any negative effects in any capacity if I drank a single drop of alcohol 20 years ago?
Hard doubt.
They probably meant that even “light drinking” can have negative effects. Whatever that amount is..
wjnc · 2h ago
Read it kindly, not literally. The missing word is probably “[persistent] consumption” and measurement in standard units of alcohol (not mmol or pl).
moi2388 · 2h ago
Sure, I indeed think they mean that. So, which amount actually does start to show negative effects? 1 drink per 10 years? Per year? Per month? Per week?
I’d prefer actual data and correct statements.
jader201 · 2h ago
From the WHO [1]:
> Alcohol is a toxic, psychoactive, and dependence-producing substance and has been classified as a Group 1 carcinogen by the International Agency for Research on Cancer decades ago – this is the highest risk group, which also includes asbestos, radiation and tobacco. Alcohol causes at least seven types of cancer, including the most common cancer types, such as bowel cancer and female breast cancer. Ethanol (alcohol) causes cancer through biological mechanisms as the compound breaks down in the body, which means that any beverage containing alcohol, regardless of its price and quality, poses a risk of developing cancer.
The risk of developing cancer increases substantially the more alcohol is consumed. However, latest available data indicate that half of all alcohol-attributable cancers in the WHO European Region are caused by “light” and “moderate” alcohol consumption – less than 1.5 litres of wine or less than 3.5 litres of beer or less than 450 millilitres of spirits per week. This drinking pattern is responsible for the majority of alcohol-attributable breast cancers in women, with the highest burden observed in countries of the European Union (EU). In the EU, cancer is the leading cause of death – with a steadily increasing incidence rate – and the majority of all alcohol-attributable deaths are due to different types of cancers.
How many pixels can be defective on a display before you want to return it?
zmgsabst · 2h ago
But extrapolation can fail.
Eg, people often say any amount of radiation is bad, but there’s evidence that isn’t true. If you’re going to make a similar claim about alcohol, you should justify it.
“Persistent consumption above some threshold” is a radically different claim than “any amount”; and you should quantify that in both respects.
aitchnyu · 1h ago
From at least 2018, medical research says that the first drop starts to harm. In 2023, WHO adopted that position.
Really now? Any amount? So you claim you can detect any negative effects in any capacity if I drank a single drop of alcohol 20 years ago?
Hard doubt.
They probably meant that even “light drinking” can have negative effects. Whatever that amount is..
I’d prefer actual data and correct statements.
> Alcohol is a toxic, psychoactive, and dependence-producing substance and has been classified as a Group 1 carcinogen by the International Agency for Research on Cancer decades ago – this is the highest risk group, which also includes asbestos, radiation and tobacco. Alcohol causes at least seven types of cancer, including the most common cancer types, such as bowel cancer and female breast cancer. Ethanol (alcohol) causes cancer through biological mechanisms as the compound breaks down in the body, which means that any beverage containing alcohol, regardless of its price and quality, poses a risk of developing cancer.
The risk of developing cancer increases substantially the more alcohol is consumed. However, latest available data indicate that half of all alcohol-attributable cancers in the WHO European Region are caused by “light” and “moderate” alcohol consumption – less than 1.5 litres of wine or less than 3.5 litres of beer or less than 450 millilitres of spirits per week. This drinking pattern is responsible for the majority of alcohol-attributable breast cancers in women, with the highest burden observed in countries of the European Union (EU). In the EU, cancer is the leading cause of death – with a steadily increasing incidence rate – and the majority of all alcohol-attributable deaths are due to different types of cancers.
[1] https://www.who.int/europe/news/item/04-01-2023-no-level-of-...
Eg, people often say any amount of radiation is bad, but there’s evidence that isn’t true. If you’re going to make a similar claim about alcohol, you should justify it.
“Persistent consumption above some threshold” is a radically different claim than “any amount”; and you should quantify that in both respects.
https://www.health.harvard.edu/blog/alcohol-and-your-health-...
https://www.who.int/europe/news/item/04-01-2023-no-level-of-...