Also worth noting that Elon said 2 weeks (!!!) ago on investors call that they expect to have Dojo operating sometime next year at scale equivalent to 100k h100... How people still don't see that this guy is just lying all the time is beyond me.
The ship is sinking very fast folks.
ethagknight · 1h ago
Given that AI is core to Tesla's robotic and self driving future, it seems like theres a lot more to this story than what has been leaked thus far.
iszomer · 1h ago
Maybe an intentional troll, given the profile's project.the.snowball moniker. /shrug
ivape · 1h ago
Two years ago Elon actually sounded a warning about Dojo. I recall him mentioning this in an earnings call:
“And we’re pursuing the dual path of Nvidia and Dojo. But I would think of Dojo as a long shot. It’s a long shot worth taking because the payoff is potentially very high. But it’s not something that is a high probability. It’s not like a sure thing at all. It’s a high‑risk, high‑payoff program. Dojo is working, and it is doing training jobs, and we are scaling it up, and we have plans for Dojo 1.5, Dojo 2, Dojo 3, and whatnot. So I think it’s got potential, but I can’t emphasize enough: high risk, high payoff.”
In other words, he admitted it’s a long shot to replace Nvidia with their own chip awhile ago. It’s interesting because Google hasn’t given up on their TPUs, but Elon being a hardware guy mostly, has.
kranke155 · 7m ago
I doubt Elon had the time or the inclination to build yet another hardware stack, and he probably saw something that showed him he couldn’t quite catch up to Nvidia?
The scale of Nvidia manufacturing and RnD should be staggering atm. Google built the entire software and hardware stack for TPUs before the AI boom. I can’t even imagine how hard it would be to hire GPU hardware talent right now.
bamboozled · 20m ago
It’s amazing how people are operating with such immunity. If I lied to my boss like that I suppose I’d just be fired and let go without pay…or would I get promoted ?
I’m not into fucking society over like these sociopaths, I guess that’s “my problem”.
I want to write a browser extension that analyzes past HN archives and decorates the usernames of posts and comments with a "Fell For It Again" badge in the case of people who seemed to believe that Dojo existed.
snypher · 1m ago
Maybe you should provide a list of things you were wrong about so we can tag you accordingly.
techpineapple · 1h ago
I wonder if this is to shift the gpus to X.AI?
KiwiJohnno · 11m ago
I was thinking maybe this, but more likely X.AI would develop the models for Tesla, such as for FSD and Optimus.
Honestly, it might not be a bad move. X.AI has done some great stuff, Grok is rough around the edges but pretty much at the bleeding edge and it doesn't make a lot of sense for musk to be running two AI camps (Yes I know they are theoretically separate companies...(
https://www.reuters.com/business/autos-transportation/tesla-...
Also worth noting that Elon said 2 weeks (!!!) ago on investors call that they expect to have Dojo operating sometime next year at scale equivalent to 100k h100... How people still don't see that this guy is just lying all the time is beyond me.
The ship is sinking very fast folks.
“And we’re pursuing the dual path of Nvidia and Dojo. But I would think of Dojo as a long shot. It’s a long shot worth taking because the payoff is potentially very high. But it’s not something that is a high probability. It’s not like a sure thing at all. It’s a high‑risk, high‑payoff program. Dojo is working, and it is doing training jobs, and we are scaling it up, and we have plans for Dojo 1.5, Dojo 2, Dojo 3, and whatnot. So I think it’s got potential, but I can’t emphasize enough: high risk, high payoff.”
https://thetranscript.net/transcript/5550/tesla-q4-2023-earn...
In other words, he admitted it’s a long shot to replace Nvidia with their own chip awhile ago. It’s interesting because Google hasn’t given up on their TPUs, but Elon being a hardware guy mostly, has.
The scale of Nvidia manufacturing and RnD should be staggering atm. Google built the entire software and hardware stack for TPUs before the AI boom. I can’t even imagine how hard it would be to hire GPU hardware talent right now.
I’m not into fucking society over like these sociopaths, I guess that’s “my problem”.
Honestly, it might not be a bad move. X.AI has done some great stuff, Grok is rough around the edges but pretty much at the bleeding edge and it doesn't make a lot of sense for musk to be running two AI camps (Yes I know they are theoretically separate companies...(