Very interesting content thank you. I don't understand why you would not use a CRT with this (especially if you are showing off your setup) or why you would have that lamp on right next to the screen just providing glare.
ahjetz4_1 · 6m ago
...ah... but...but xbox (2001) and you may do your programming in a virtual-machine, too? *Heck' there was a chip-mod to play own software, not? It seem to be the same, but (sry, non computer-anthropolgist here)...maybe useful and "eben anders" (german)? and it tooked me 25,- Bucks to get one of these (3D able) ~700MHz "Heavy-Weights" and sure there are still Games around... PS: I'd not know that there was a Amiga 5000 ^^
Quoting: "Applications are fun and fast!"
Randomly attached (but viewable) stuff:
I appreciate the experimentation with new software, and the overview of the various OS versions, but the elephant in the room is the Vampire "accelerator".
It's not an accelerator. It's a full hardware Amiga emulator that uses the actual Amiga as a simple I/O daughterboard. You're not really operating your Amiga hardware at this point, you're using the Vampire. I'd say it's _equivalent_ to running a PiMiga (also not an amiga), or if you hooked up something that turned your Amiga's keyboard and mouse/joystick ports into USB devices, then plugged them into a PC running WinUAE - which is entirely fine to do, but none are really using a real Amiga as an actual computer
fidotron · 1h ago
The Amiga scene has been headed this way for decades - it's deeply bizarre. At what point do these things stop being Amigas? PowerPCs? GPUs? FPGAs? A whole separate memory bus?
It's a bit like some retro car modding scene where as long as the car body looks kind of familiar it's all fair game.
caboteria · 47m ago
> At what point do these things stop being Amigas?
Ah, the classic "Ship of Tramiel" gedankenexperiment.
There is a belief among Amiga enthusiasts that the Amiga should have won, that had it not been for sabotage from without (e.g., Microsoft) as well as sabotage from within (upper management, particularly Irving Gould, being interested in squeezing profits out of the C64 and existing Amiga lines rather than R&D), the Amiga would have been a decade or more ahead of the rest of the industry and may have become the dominant computing platform. Kitting out Amigas with more advanced hardware than any real Amiga would have been able to be contemporaneously equipped with thus becomes an alternate reality game: what if Commodore hadn't failed? what if the Amiga were still a contender into the late 90s and beyond? To borrow your analogy, it's like kitting out a 1967 Chevy Impala with a modern engine and drivetrain, to imagine what it would have been like had the values of the '67 Impala, including looks and the sense of being fun to drive, had persisted into the era of fuel injection and continuously-variable transmissions. Maybe it's not an Amiga in terms of actual Amiga hardware configurations, but the idea is that in this alternate universe, what an Amiga is would have changed.
krige · 1m ago
> Linux users used to display symptoms very frequently before Linux started winning
this made me laugh, good stuff
bitwize · 1h ago
Indeed, there is a model of Vampire, the Vampire Standalone, which is pretty much just straight up an Amiga on FPGA with lots of advanced goodies that speculate on what a mid-late 90s Amiga might look like (CPU ~100MHz, 3D acceleration, 16mil colors, etc.).
I'd heard Vampire's compatibility can be spotty and you can obviously see why. My own 1200 is kept very barebones by design (just a spot of fast ram and a CF drive) to keep max compatibility with the software I do want to run there instead of trying to convince everyone it can still be a viable do-anything system in 2025. Although a TerribleFire (an actual accelerator, unlike the Vampire) is very tempting at times...
bitwize · 1h ago
Yeah. I have an A500, and it pleases me very much to keep it at its base configuration, with the exception of a Gotek floppy emulator and maybe, eventually, an IDE card. I have plenty of modern PCs for modern PC tasks. The idea of being inventive with what the capabilities of the original-spec hardware were pleases me more than attempting to turn it into a more modern machine.
Quoting: "Applications are fun and fast!" Randomly attached (but viewable) stuff:
[1]: https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2017/05/the-a-eon-amiga-x500...
[2]: https://cdn.arstechnica.net/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/neuro...
It's not an accelerator. It's a full hardware Amiga emulator that uses the actual Amiga as a simple I/O daughterboard. You're not really operating your Amiga hardware at this point, you're using the Vampire. I'd say it's _equivalent_ to running a PiMiga (also not an amiga), or if you hooked up something that turned your Amiga's keyboard and mouse/joystick ports into USB devices, then plugged them into a PC running WinUAE - which is entirely fine to do, but none are really using a real Amiga as an actual computer
It's a bit like some retro car modding scene where as long as the car body looks kind of familiar it's all fair game.
Ah, the classic "Ship of Tramiel" gedankenexperiment.
There is a belief among Amiga enthusiasts that the Amiga should have won, that had it not been for sabotage from without (e.g., Microsoft) as well as sabotage from within (upper management, particularly Irving Gould, being interested in squeezing profits out of the C64 and existing Amiga lines rather than R&D), the Amiga would have been a decade or more ahead of the rest of the industry and may have become the dominant computing platform. Kitting out Amigas with more advanced hardware than any real Amiga would have been able to be contemporaneously equipped with thus becomes an alternate reality game: what if Commodore hadn't failed? what if the Amiga were still a contender into the late 90s and beyond? To borrow your analogy, it's like kitting out a 1967 Chevy Impala with a modern engine and drivetrain, to imagine what it would have been like had the values of the '67 Impala, including looks and the sense of being fun to drive, had persisted into the era of fuel injection and continuously-variable transmissions. Maybe it's not an Amiga in terms of actual Amiga hardware configurations, but the idea is that in this alternate universe, what an Amiga is would have changed.
this made me laugh, good stuff
https://www.apollo-computer.com/v4standalone.php