You are what you measure (even in open source) (nikodunk.com)
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Data Science Weekly – Issue 609 (datascienceweekly.substack.com)
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Intel CEO Letter to Employees
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There seems to be significant opportunity to zig as others zag. Imagine the Intel letter saying "we are going to take advantage of the current hiring environment to scoop up talent, and push forward on initiatives."
A sensible, sober CEO would still need a lot of political capital to push back against a boardroom that's hounding them to jump on the latest hype train. You certainly won't get that from a CEO who just took that position a few months ago.
A sensible, sober boardroom that doesn't push their execs to jump on the hype train would need to answer to angry shareholders. It's almost certain that >50% will support the latest fad and would vote out a board that they perceive as being behind the times.
That's where startups and privately owned companies get their natural advantage of being able to go against the grain.
I thought about this a lot over the years.
I saw something that piqued my interest last year though, and kind've helped connect the dots. I was on a cruise, and most of the ship was available to guests. One day, one room was cordoned off to an invite-only meeting. The windows weren't blocked, but on the screen was a presentation about AI investments, number of jobs saved (reduced), and etc.
I found one of the attendants later during the voyage and chatted her up. She was head of HR in some big company, and the meeting was supposed to be private. But it contained a lot more than just spreadsheets about AI investments. There was homework and whatnot, but the attendees weren't all from a single company. It was "direction setting". I don't think it was Intel (topic under discussion) but certainly some loosely related tech industry.
I'm convinced that it was nothing less than business collusion.
So, back to your question:
> why do all these business leaders all do the same things at the same time?
Because they're told to.
https://www.amazon.com/Capital-Order-Economists-Invented-Aus...
Wonder if it’s “not illegal” if it’s done in international waters.
I didn't ask. As I understand it, it's less about legality and more about plausible deniability; on a "party boat" with plenty of other public people to make it cheaper than renting a whole boat, plus the week for the cruise and time to relax -- seems plausible that these people "just happened" to book the same boat at the same time at peak tourist season and decide to throw a "private party". I should have asked more questions, but there were plenty of other people to chat up.
Meanwhile, a lot of laborers in our profession have fallen for their propaganda of markets and so-called meritocracy, not realizing they have more in common with the fruit picker than their common exploiter.
Class warfare is real. It's time tech workers wake up to that fact and start fighting back instead of letting oligarchs walk over them.
Just keep smooth talking everyone into cost reductions and make arbitrary decisions to make it feel like you're actually in charge.
That’s not my assessment. Why do you say that?
The letter seemed contradictory: be a factory, but innovate on AI. Is AI actually smart? Human brains use the power of a dim incandescent light bulb, why does AI require so much power, that the processing chips overheat?
Sure, selected tasks can be done orders of magnitude faster, but do we, for example, really need that kind of output, like pi to a trillion digits? Or AI controlling stock market trading? How much liquidity is necessary for traders other than huge funds?
I've pitched that a couple times in my career. The difficulty is that, in a lot of cases, your future business prospects are genuinely correlated with other businesses. Intel is going to sell fewer CPUs in the next 3 years if other businesses aren't hiring and expanding as quickly as they did during COVID. And I think there's a pretty good reason to think that Intel's revenues will actually shrink as a result. That limits how much zig they can do while others zag.
I think they should do what you say but shareholders are looking for the quickest, best returns now, not in a few years time.
You'll find the same names appearing over and over again.
The reason all companies seem to do the same thing at the same time is that their boards are all the same people giving the same order to all their companies' ceo's at the same time.
But there are CEOs who define an industry. Those are not easily swayed by big capital.
Broadly speaking though, I think you’re experiencing confirmation bias to some degree. If you only look at companies that are on the struggle bus, then you only see a limited number of levers that management has (RIF, delay CapEx, etc). Other struggling companies that don’t take evasive maneuvers go out of business and we don’t hear the story.
Most of these businesses are feeling the same pressures and experiencing the same problems... in silence. Eventually one of their competitors breaks (because they are forced to due to economic realities, etc) and starts making necessary moves (layoffs, efficiency improvements, etc). The rest follow-suit, breathing a collective sigh of relief that they weren't the first to make all the headlines.
But speaking of combining forces, Microsoft will be more likely to pick them up in a fire sale now, which I think would be best for all involved. Then you’re a couple of M&As away with first Dell and then Oracle.
Then they will select a champion to fight the Pentavirate at The Meadows!!
Nice “So I Married an Axe Murderer” reference!
It appears that Lip-Bu used an LLM to help write this memo. Also: 15% of staff with an arbitrary 50% management? Boy, he must have been up all night working on that one! Maybe everyone can have an ice cream social when they return- bring your own.
American markets have largely consolidated into oligopolies, where just a handful of very large companies operate. It's extremely easy for them to wink at each other and then raise prices/layoff workers, etc.
This is also being accelerated by the unregulated software market that lets the corporations hide behind algorithms, as we recently saw with realty. https://www.npr.org/2024/08/23/nx-s1-5087586/realpage-rent-l...
The end of ZIRP was the bat signal to corporate America to begin layoffs.
Simple. These companies need enough 'fitness' in order to survive and thrive. No one has the power to fight against the Nature’s Wille—survival of the fittest. They have to obey, especially when faced with the ruthless, life-and-death competition of the commercial world.
P.S. Hoping this comment doesn’t get downvoted too much and end up dead, not surviving.
Because they all studied the same MBA programs.
One would hope they would figure out if a design was a good fit for the company well before tapeout. Ideally before they were done with the rtl.
Not sure if you intentionally picked the all time high headcount, but you did.
Intel's headcount was relatively stable between 100-110k people between 2014 and 2021 [0]. So, getting down to 75k is definitely still a major reduction, but 2022 was also an outlier. A lot of companies overhired during Covid, and Intel particularly was the beneficiary of WFH pulling in a lot of corporate spending on laptops etc.
[0] https://morethanmoore.substack.com/p/intel-2025-q1-financial...
> Looking further ahead, we’re developing Intel 14A as a foundry node from the ground up in close partnership with large external customers. This is essential to designing a process that meets specific customer requirements and enables us to address a broader segment of the market. Going forward, our investment in Intel 14A will be based on confirmed customer commitments. There are no more blank checks. Every investment must make economic sense. We will build what our customers need, when they need it, and earn their trust through consistent execution.
are these large external customers in the room with us right now?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flip-flop_(electronics)
1: https://www.threads.com/@masiosare/post/C-SoS6qJbU6?hl=en
Imagine doing what all your competitors are doing while being one of the least desirable big tech companies to work for.
What could possibly go wrong? /s
Good thing you have very few of them because your industry is way too capital intensive to start a competitor now.
I am generally curious what capitalisms proposed solution to this problem is.
I bought INTC to hold for 10-20 years based on the promise of long term investment in domestic manufacturing. I didn't care if they took a decade to battle back. Seeing them sell of the foundry business would be enough for me to cut my losses before the titanic hits the ocean floor. They'd be a walking corpse at that point IMO.
There are too many companies out there that started with a good product/service - and then bureaucrats took over. Smart companies minimize layers of management, and manager headcount. Bad companies don't - and they eventually are unable to grow/innovate. A shockingly high percentage of corporate America is parasitic management.
Intel happens to be in an industry that moves so fast that this doesn't work for long, relatively.
I don't even know who my boss actually is now.
It seems like the author of this article requires another reference: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_Brimelow
It's just such a massive difference. You can tell Lip-Bu spends his weekends playing golf while Jensen is checking out the latest model from Huggingface.
You can't buy passion or genuine interest in what you're doing.
Intel is in trouble, it's not clear how or if they'll be able to get out of the hole they're in. Their only saving grace is natsec concerns and even that may not be enough to save them. I was hoping Gelsinger would be able to do it, but it was too late.
> Return to office in September
So 15% reduction now and another stealth reduction in September
> we plan to end the year with a global workforce of about 75,000 employees as a result of workforce reductions and attrition
so it looks like the explicit reduction might be lower, but accounting for people leaving on their own, the final amount of employees should be ~75k
Extremely sad. What's the justification for ignoring ARM / RISC-V?
But the main reason to focus on x86 is that it has 47 years of existing software built for it, and with the high end mostly still on it, more gets made every day.
The only reason why I even still have an x86 PC is to play videogames. For all other purposes I’ve got ARM machines.
<1%? 1%? 2%?
https://chipsandcheese.com/p/arm-or-x86-isa-doesnt-matter
The answer for your question can be: because somebody didn't put enough effort / attention to make it work
Is it true? I dont know, but can be
RISC-V is inevitable.
Intel will simply miss the train, and go under.
Unlike Intel, AMD isn't clueless. After Zen6, it will likely release good RISC-V chips with some sort of x86 acceleration for unprivileged code as selling point, remaining relevant and securing themselves market share during the (inevitable) transition.
As the excellent series Chernobyl put it (in the words crafted by a writer, not an actual scientist) "Every lie we tell incurs a debt to the truth" and at some point someone is going to have to pay all of those debts.
1: Here I'm focusing on Anglosphere/largely US and UK societies, as a monolingual American that's all I can effectively comment on.
But I can (at least for now) wfh for the most part.
There's like 10 that pay alot, actually hiring, and have remote work available.
I’d also hoped that some major semiconductor company would NOT embrace AI, just so they could differentiate themselves: “Our shit may be too slow for the Terminator to use, but it was designed by and for humans to use as air-gapped spreadsheet running machines with USB-key sneakernet email.”
Given that there is a growing backlash towards LLMs by the general public (not just one writers’ guild), that might sell some stock.
So, Amazon, Apple, ... are close to collapse?
As for Apple, I do love their hardware, but the software side has seen better days.
It feels like the whole magnificent seven thing and the the way they are holding up an overvalued stock market is driving some desperate decision-making. Like 12 more billion dollars for XAI to buy more Nvidia GPUs does XAI have any revenue at all?
It _is_ a hype bubble but it is also an S-curve. Intel has missed the AI boat so far, if they are trying to catch up, I would encourage them to try. Building marginally better x86 chips might not cut it anymore.
Maybe they mean the more vram needed for agentic AI? but then the sane thing to say would be that theyll offer more compute for AI.
its just an unhinged thing for a chip manufacturer to say.
software tools are essential to driving chip adoption; it's one reason why Nvidia got ahead (CUDA)
Is this just marketing?
But to be serious: Intel creates software too (compilers for example). Nvidia does provide software too. Its also nice to sell licenses.
Did they end up getting any German/EU money to build that cutting edge foundry? EU's chip strategy seems to be in shambles, and they took their eyes off the ball since the end of the Covid chip crisis.
[0] https://www.gov.pl/web/cyfryzacja/inwestycja-intela-w-polsce...
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Each time, the CEO would give tons of small, random suggestions, then disappear for several days before reviewing again. He'd request more tweaks, then repeat the cycle. Because of all this back and forth, even simple tasks that should've taken a couple of days ended up dragging on for a month.
In the end, my friend got so frustrated with the whole process that he just quit.
> We will become a faster, more agile and more vibrant company. We will eliminate bureaucracy and empower engineers to innovate with greater speed and focus.
It really is a weird PR piece rather than serious communication.
There’s nothing more fun than a carefully thought out cohesive design that takes into account all business and technical constraints being randomly “improved” by a too-busy senior manager who’s been “off the tools” for decades.
“You should switch to NoSQL.” — a nearly verbatim quote from a meeting just last week. No justification or elaboration, just… abandon a relational database platform with two decades of built up business value on a whim.
“Rejoice! For you have been managed!”
In the end, we’d build in ‘breakpoints’ - things that we knew they’d pick up on and want to change so they felt like they’d had some input without damaging anything important. This worked very well.
It takes an overwhelmingly powerful personality to get anything done, despite the fact there are billions of capable people on this planet.
Compare that to Jobs who after he announced the iPhone and started using it, saw how much the screen scratched and went back to the drawing board and had then re-engineer it before it shipped six months later. He even announced they were doing it.
Better yet, the infamous “what does Mobile Me suppose to do?…Then why the f%%% doesn’t it do that?”.
You noticed that Cook didn’t wear the Vision Pro once during the introduction? Compare that to Jobs introductions of the iPhone and the iPad.
Rumors are, that Cook doesn’t even use a Mac day to day.
On the other hand, Jobs didn’t use a Mac after his return until OS X was released. He was also definitely not a fan of the Motorola phone with built in iTunes that he introduced on stage.
Can you imagine Cook writing an open letter on Apple.com like “Thoughts on Music” or “Thoughts on Flash”?
This has to be false. Your telling me the CEO of apple is using windows 11? With ads in the start menu? Thatd be hilarious
But the CEO of Google did use a BlackBerry years after Android was introduced.
https://www.macrumors.com/2024/11/17/tim-cook-didnt-say-that...
Given the number of “major” chips Intel produces-weren’t they already being presented to the C-Suite? What stealth chips were being sold without high level involvement?
Granted, ISA is less crucial than it used to be, but there's still a lot of x86 binaries in the world.
Depends on what you do.
Gaming PC = x86
Work laptop = x86
So AMD or Intel. "Switch to Mac" means ripping out the whole MS management stack. Or keep/move to 365 and Intune but tune it to Mac. Or keep 365 but move management to Jamf. Can be done ofc, but it's a process.
That's how I still see it. Maybe I'm out of touch :)
Surely that's not the only advantage?
Not but really, yes it is doable but takes time and hiring new admins or re-train.
Yes if you are company of 20 people go buy Macs and GSuite.
Cutting this to four may give compound effect, but IMO this is focusing on the symptoms instead of the real causes like for example people being territorial or obsessed about their promo package. Convoluted managerial chain is often just a weapon to achieve your hidden agenda.
If they can't catch up, which seems somewhat likely at this point, they will have to sell their fab business (if anyone wants it) and focus on just designing CPUs, similar to AMD.
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- "50% streamlining of management layers" : fire 50% and make the others do 200% ? or send some the lower level/tech roles ?
- "Return to office in September" : yeah good luck with that, people will comply, your efficiency will go down at least for the upcoming 2Q.
- "projects in Germany/Poland halted" : cheaper labor than the US with same talent depth.
- "Refocus AI strategy to inference and agentic AI" : holly F, how can he be as retarded as this, they should go all in on inference and get better at IT, after all this their domain (i.e hardware). Agentic AI means inference and shit tone of AI/ML domain specific stuff, which they don't have and it's too late to catch unless they acquire a big player.
Aren't layoffs a version of that? Are we seeing any evidence that folks who have been let go from Intel have resulted in spin-offs and startups?
I know at least one person who went to work at Nvidia from Intel but that is neither of those things.
- Allow industry to consolidate to a tiny group of winners, or just one winner
- Turn a blind eye to anticompetitive behavior in the marketplace
- Protect the uncompetitive winner from innovative global competitors
- Bail it out because national security depends on it
It's funny because we don't have socialism, government doesn't 'own' heavy industries, but at the same time the major firms will obviously never be allowed to fail on national security grounds.
https://imgur.com/a/dvUSgA3
Honestly, good. AMD is amazing for laptop/desktop and server now, but may flop like Intel did. Always good with competition. But I need a new CPU and right now AMD is king.
Phone only plebs need not apply.
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Some mutterings were heard about the definition of insanity ...
So far as the firings concentrate on all the ancillary stuff that Intel shouldn't have gotten into in the first place, it's positive.
But instead let's discuss some turnaround suggestions, starting with:
(1) is the most important and urgent action that Intel can do to sort out their issues.Intel spent $2B on Habana and it went nowhere. Too bad, the hardware seemed promising enough.
when did they get bailed out before? And don't say CHIPS because Intel only actually received $2B to build fabs - and that's only a tenth of the cost of building its new fab in Ohio. That's not a bailout.