I'm Peter Roberts, immigration attorney who does work for YC and startups. AMA

108 proberts 143 7/18/2025, 2:44:57 PM
I'll be here for the rest of the day. As usual, there are countless immigration-related topics to discuss and I'll be guided by whatever you're concerned with. Please remember that I can't provide legal advice on specific cases because I won't have access to all the facts. Please stick to a factual discussion in your questions and comments and I'll try to do the same in my answers.

Previous threads we've done: https://news.ycombinator.com/submitted?id=proberts.

Comments (143)

tnthrowaway · 11m ago
Hi Peter!

There's a lot of confusion and uncertainty around a June policy update regarding TN visa (some related links in https://www.reddit.com/r/tnvisa/comments/1lerikw/nonengineer...). At least one big tech (my personal anecdote that I don't feel comfortable sharing) temporarily paused new TN applications for software engineers with a CS degree, citing this change.

This seems to have always been a fuzzy area on paper, and some people in this category apparently still got their TN in the past month after this change. Is this a material change in your mind? If so, how are employers responding to it?

usr402 · 5m ago
Hi Peter, I'm from Europe and currently in the US on a B2 visa (I’ve traveled frequently between the US and Europe over the past year, so we chose B2 over ESTA to be safe). I’m living with my partner who’s on an H1B and working on my startup here. I’m preparing my O-1 case and starting to apply to accelerators (e.g. YC) to strengthen the membership/awards criteria. Am I legally allowed to participate in those programs before officially having the O-1? Thank you!
sophia01 · 1h ago
I'm graduating from my PhD and starting a FAANG research role. I'm Australian and about to start in F-1 OPT status.

I am interested in an EB-1 or EB-2 (possibly NIW) visa, but am concerned about a long period where I can't travel (aka re-enter).

What's the practical difference between E-3 and F-1 OPT (with STEM extension) in my case? Is it easy to switch from F-1 to E-3 at the same role?

proberts · 27m ago
Your green card process will have two steps, the I-140 filing and then the green card application, either in the U.S. with USCIS (known as an I-485 application) or outside the U.S. with a U.S. Consulate (known as an Immigrant Visa application). During the I-140 stage, there is some risk traveling on an F-1 or an E-3 visa (with the F-1 riskier), but this risk is relatively low and can be mitigated. One way to reduce this risk to zero is to switch to O-1 status, which as a PhD grad you probably would qualify for but your employer would need to support this. At the second stage, with an I-485 filing, whether you are in E-3, F-1, or O-1 status, you should expect to be unable to travel for at least 6 months unless you have a family emergency. With an IV application, you will be able to travel on an O-1 visa but there will be some risk traveling on an E-3 or F-1 visa (again, with the F-1 riskier).
wallyrabbitbun · 41m ago
Hey Peter,

I'm still waiting for my family based GC to be approved. It was applied for in March 2023.

I've tried contacting my senators to see if it can be expedited but USCIS replied to say that it's still within "normal processing times" and that there is not yet an immigrant number available as my priority date is not earlier than the final action date.

I've been keeping a close eye on the USCIS Visa Bulletin final action dates and have noticed that they don't always move forward each month. I.e. there has been no change between July and August: https://travel.state.gov/content/travel/en/legal/visa-law0/v...

Is this normal? Or due to the current administration?

hibikir · 31m ago
You don't need peter for this one: The action date is indicating the place in the queue of the application they are currently working on. Every month they don't deal with 1 month worth of applications: Sometimes it might take 6 months to go through a single month of applications, other times it can move much faster. Either way, it all depends on what was submitted a long time ago, their maximum speed, and the number of visas allotted: It's possible for USCIS to run out of visas for a country and just process nothing more for the rest of the year.

So its all normal, it's been happening for decades, and there's been no significant action in the legislature to speed things up. As things are right now, there are specific queues where the delay might as well mean 'forever', because it's going to take many decades for the current processing speed to reach July 2025.

wallyrabbitbun · 14m ago
So just SOL here, and nothing that can be done but wait? :(
taesu · 13m ago
Hi Peter, thanks for doing this. Wife and I are both Canadians. Wife is on a H1B and I'm on TN - separate employers. My 9089 is being reviewed, while she is on labor market test. What is the best path forward to getting GC for the both of us while working? Should we keep going forward with this setup and whoever can file for I-485, add the spouse to beneficiary?
hertzthrowaway · 28m ago
Hi Peter, thank you for doing this on a regular basis!

In the event of a company-sponsored EB1A with an approved I140 but with an I485 pending for less than 180 days, is it possible for the company to rescind the approval? Or does the approval belong to me even though it is company-sponsored?

If the approval can be rescinded, could I lose my priority date and my I485 as well?

morajabi · 16m ago
Has YC rejected applicant because of possible visa issues due to country of origin because of travel bans? Should those still apply for YC?
proberts · 12m ago
These questions should be addressed to YC. All I can say is that I have seen founders from just about every country around the world accepted into YC.
zacqu · 1h ago
Hi Mr. Roberts, Thank you for doing this.

I was adopted as a child by my uncle in my home country, where record-keeping is poor. As a result, all my official documents, including my birth certificate, list my uncle and aunt as my parents. I used this documentation when I obtained U.S. citizenship. I now want to petition for my biological parents to immigrate to the U.S. My uncle still lives in my home country and has never received any immigration benefits from me. Is it possible to petition for my biological parents under these circumstances, and how complex would the process be?

Also, could you recommend a reputable immigration attorney in Washington State or the West Coast?

proberts · 1h ago
This is a very interesting question but too complex to answer in writing. Please email me and I can share the names of good immigration attorneys near you.
tk90 · 43m ago
Hi Peter! Thank you for doing this. Are you seeing any issues/concerns with Green Card holders traveling internationally and returning to the US in the past few months?
proberts · 35m ago
Only that even with green card holders, we have seen instances where CBP is asking to see electronic devices and reviewing their social media accounts. But we haven't had a green card holding client detained or denied admission.
lazzurs · 3h ago
What sort of people get O-1 visas? I assume it is people with multiple degrees and have decades of experience in a specific field?

I am good at what I do, have done public speaking at major conferences on what I do but no degree and so assume that i've no chance of ever getting into the USA. Currently a UK citizen living in Ireland.

proberts · 20m ago
The O-1 is a high standard but it's less about overall achievement or standing (like the EB1A green card category) and more about meeting specific criteria, which many talented professionals and founders do. I would recommend reviewing the O-1 criteria (they're listed on USCIS's website, www.uscis.gov) and then having an immigration attorney evaluate your background. People are often surprised that they meet the O-1 criteria or with a bit of work will qualify.
TheJoeMan · 12m ago
My dance instructor, who has won an international championship, is here on an O-1B. However, his 3 year initial eligibility is coming due, and the processing times for the 1-year extension is looking like it's going to take longer than 1-year! According to Wikipedia, Justin Beiber is here on an O visa, I wonder how his gets processed.
morpheuskafka · 2h ago
It's open to things like sport and entertainment, so definitely not everyone has many (or any) degrees. Assuming your field is somewhat science based I don't know how realistic it would be with no degree, but you can search some blogs about it, people have covered what they did to rack up publications and stuff to check all the boxes (if their work/field wouldn't have otherwise needed them).

If you are starting your own business, the treaty investor visa could also be a good route. It doesn't require as much investment as the investor green card; it is a nonimmigrant visa similar to the O-1.

fooker · 2h ago
There's a list of qualifying criteria on the USCIS website. You have to satisfy at least three out of the eight or so.

The issue is it's a bit subjective, a lawyer writes down how you qualify and some random government employee has to believe what the lawyer wrote.

If you receive a RFE or rejection, all your dealings with USCIS will face extra scrutiny in future. So it's a bit of a gamble.

mertleee · 1h ago
It's beyond a joke. Recently spent some time at an accelerator and the partners of the VC firm were very open about purchasing "fake" research or presenting investments as if they were from more than one "investor".

I still fail to understand how Dwarkesh Patel managed to "self-sponsor" an O-1 with a... tech podcast...

crowcroft · 24m ago
Podcasts are a very significant medium, and Dwarkesh is probably comfortably in the top 1% of podcasts. Isn't that exactly what O-1 is for?
mertleee · 19m ago
At the time he barely had 10k subscribers. The merits of the "genius" VISA should be for research and engineering endeavors.
turtle_samurai · 1h ago
Hi Peter, when i went to Hacker news this morning and saw this post i thought, that's a bit unusual, an attorney??, so i think its cool that an immigration attorney visits channels like this. Anyways, me and my soon to be wife (we get married next Friday) have consulted an immigration lawyer regarding my status, i overstayed my tourist visa, so now im out of status, the lawyer mentioned that i have a pretty good chance to adjust my status since i came here legally and i don't have any felonies or anything bad on my record, however my concern is this, should we and my future wife wait a bit longer to apply for this change of status until we have more hard evidence? we live together and have a joint bank account, in which i deposit a certain amount each month so she can pay bills etc, thing is she is not regularly using the card, she just uses a big portion on the rent or she just transfers it to her personal, we will also get our phone and car insurance bills together, we have joint Costco membership too, what other evidence do you recommend we should work on or is there a resource online i can use as a guide to build an excellent case? thank you!!
proberts · 15m ago
Assuming that your wife is a U.S. citizen, you should be fine; the law forgives overstays and unauthorized employment for those pursuing green cards based on marriage to a U.S. citizen. Of course, I haven't reviewed your background but on the face of it, I don't see any reason for you to wait to file but I would recommend that you defer to your lawyer since he or she will have all the facts.
iambvk · 1h ago
Peter does this every few months on Hackernews.
dang · 28m ago
donohoe · 46m ago
Not a lawyer, but this is similar to my situation.

I personally would not delay. It will be awhile before you get to the interview stage so you also have that time to show your relationship is genuine and collect proof of a life together.

I don't know of a list; but my wife and I had things like:

  - wedding photos!
  - mobile phone family plan
  - joint tax filings
  - sample of letters/postcards sent to us (separate and together) at same address 
    (xmas cards etc. and even some junk mail)
  - name on utilities
  - photos at different events, weddings, birthdays, sports, etc.
We didn't need most of it in the end but you never know - and this was over 15 years ago.

Congrats!

TNWin · 14m ago
Hi Peter,

Thank you.

What should my next steps be if my employment-based green card renewal is denied?

proberts · 11m ago
That's incredibly rare by the way but next steps would depend on the reason for the denial.
morpheuskafka · 2h ago
Since it was coincidentally posted as a news thread today, it might be nice to clarify here when the new $250 nonimmigrant visa fee takes effect and who it applies to?
proberts · 2h ago
My understanding is that it applies to all approved visa applications and is billed when the visa is issued. I believe that it takes effect immediately but there was some confusion about this. I will try to confirm and advise on this thread.
morpheuskafka · 2h ago
Hmm, so it looks like no on really knows when it takes effect, the law itself specified a cost for the current fiscal year, but in addition to the usual time to implement the fee in the IT systems, there appear to be two issues: what rulemaking notices/approvals are needed to decide and impose it (the law allows the executive to decide the fee, it just sets a minimum), and the fact that DHS not State is supposed to collect it, which would greatly complicate processing.

State already has a global cashiering system for visa fees that would have been easier to use, although DHS collecting fees is not without precedent. For one, the SEVIS fee (a surcharge on student visas) is paid directly to DHS by credit card. For two, the surcharge on green cards is paid to USCIS, but this one is not actually enforced before visa issuance or arrival (they will not mail you the card if you don't pay, but you still have the status).

https://www.cnbc.com/2025/07/18/visa-integrity-fee-what-to-k...

piker · 2h ago
Thanks so much Peter - how do non-US people typically work in SF during YC?

I am a US citizen but have a few non-US citizen friends who might join if accepted.

proberts · 2h ago
A distinction must be drawn between working during a startup program, which requires a work visa, and attending the program and not working. For the latter, there are several options, including, most commonly, the B-1 visa/status.
admissionsguy · 1h ago
Out of curiosity, what percentage of YC founders just go to the office hours and dinner and not work for the duration of the program? Is this encouraged?
proberts · 7m ago
I can't comment on that but the issue here is what constitutes work and actively participating in YC doesn't even if this participation results in benefit to a company.
gc-pain · 45m ago
I'm on a L1B and my labor market test just failed for the PERM process.

I found my job ad on LinkedIn and it had over 300 applications within a few days of going live.

I have a suspicion that due to the ATS we use for our company it showed the job application on many different channels unnecessarily.

What do you suggest I do next?

proberts · 23m ago
The issue is that it's completely up to the company how it conducts its PERM recruitment and you can't have any say or role in this process. One option, to take control back, is to look at self-petition options, such as the NIW or EB1A. To be clear, however, the EB1A is a very high standard and I would argue getting higher and the NIW, while easier than the EB1A, is much harder now but still worth looking at.
trycatchthroawy · 3h ago
I have a question for a friend who is looking to work at US-based companies either remotely and is open to relocating and moving there if required, but she is from the UK and a citizen there who just left her job as a software engineer at a startup in the UK recently.

She is looking to be able to legally work for some of these US based companies and is also interested in US startups but when applying she cannot answer the US authorization question in the application (If she said 'No' it will get her an immediate rejection). So my question(s) are:

What is the best visa for her to apply for as a UK citizen to work for a US company?

How long will it take for her to get the visa so she can apply for US jobs?

proberts · 3h ago
U.S. work authorization isn't required to work for a U.S. company if the worker will be working remotely outside the U.S. Regarding her work visa options, they are limited. The only option immediately available is the O-1 visa, which is for people of "extraordinary ability," a high standard but attainable by many talented professionals. The H-1B "professional worker" visa is much easier to qualify for but it's only available once a year and via a lottery so it's not a realistic option. If she really wants to work for a U.S. company remotely or in the U.S., then she should have a consultation with an immigration attorney and have her background evaluated.
quibono · 3h ago
Thank you very much, I'm in a similar position as OP's friend and this is very helpful!
ttul · 2h ago
The O-1 can cost upwards of $100K to put together. It’s a very high bar.
ianhawes · 2h ago
That is not remotely true. An O-1, EB2NIW, or EB1A ranges from $5K-$15K.
proberts · 2h ago
Correct. While there are some outliers, I think that that range is accurate.
admissionsguy · 1h ago
I am assuming this includes manufacturing the evidence?
rsstack · 1h ago
My time to apply for citizenship based on my EB green card is approaching (4 years and 9 months, right?). Is it still advised for employment-based cases without children to file the N-400 without a lawyer?

Additionally - I will be getting married, to a US citizen, after filing the N-400 but likely before it will be approved or before the oath ceremony. Does that change the answer? In theory, she's not benefiting my case and not benefiting from my case, but I'm not sure if USCIS has a different opinion.

proberts · 1h ago
Your impending marriage doesn't change the answer and the answer is that naturalization applications are very easy and don't require the assistance of a lawyer unless there's an issue, specifically, a criminal record, a history of immigration violations/non-compliance, or extended absences (more than 6 months) from the U.S. while a green card holder.
rsstack · 1h ago
Thank you! Luckily none of those issues apply :)
codybontecou · 1h ago
Hey Mr. Roberts!

I'm a US citizen and my wife has a green card. We like to travel extensively, but feel limited by the need to be in the US for at least 6 months out of the year.

In an ideal world, we could get a digital nomad visa in Portugal and my wife and I could live and work there while we wait out some of the chaos that seems to be occurring in the US.

But, we're not sure if we can live/work in Europe while simultaneously fulfilling the green card requirements. Do you know if there's an exception for cases like this?

proberts · 1h ago
There's no requirement that a green card holder spend 6 months in the U.S. during the year. You and your wife can and should travel freely. And you could live outside the U.S. for several years and still keep your green card. If you decide to move to Portugal for a period of time, for example, you should consult an attorney but the solution to protect your green card status (for at least 5 years) is to get a document called a reentry permit, which is easy to get.
codybontecou · 1h ago
Interesting. Thank you for the response. If this is true, that's amazing!

Do you know where the 6-month requirement (rumor?) is from? Reading over https://www.uscis.gov/policy-manual/volume-12-part-d-chapter... section C states

"...there are two ways outlined in the statute in which the continuity of residence can be broken:

The applicant is absent from the United States for more than 6 months but less than 1 year; or The applicant is absent from the United States for 1 year or more."

Is this only for citizenship/naturalization and not to maintain a green card?

manusachi · 10m ago
Yes "the continuity of residence" is required for naturalization.

> An applicant for naturalization ... must have resided continuously in the United States after his or her lawful permanent resident (LPR) admission for at least 5 years prior to filing the naturalization application and up to the time of naturalization.

testfrequency · 1h ago
I’ll spare a new thread and just ask here as we are in the same situation (sorry OP!).

My understanding is we at least need to be in the US once every six months in order for my partner to maintain their green card status while we live abroad.

We were not aware of the reentry permit, does this avoid the requirements of needing to enter the country periodically? We are of course concerned about losing their green card status.

Lastly, how realistic is the timing in obtaining the permit? We have our move planned for next month.

Thanks you as always for these threads!

anu7df · 1h ago
Re-entry permit is granted for 2 years and the only requirement is that you apply for it while in country. Usual processing time nowadays is around a year so in effect you need to apply once every 3 years for it. They have the option of sending it to a us embassy abroad for pick up but we have always had it sent to a friends address in US and picked it up while visiting US.
codybontecou · 1h ago
You didn't have any issues re-entering the US prior to picking up the permit from your friend's address?
testfrequency · 42m ago
Thanks for sharing your experience. A year is a very long time..I am also curious about the pickup options and address.

My partner will be updating their address to have mail sent to a family member’s address in the US, but we will also be living in a country that has a US embassy easily accessible.

My partner is Mexican, so as you can imagine, they almost always have awful experiences with immigration in the US.

proberts · 5m ago
Yes, a year is a long time but evidence of having applied for a reentry permit in the form of a receipt notice is usually enough to reenter the U.S. without issue even with absences of more than 6 months.
hansvm · 1h ago
Thank so much Mr. Roberts.

The status quo looks dangerous in the US even for born-and-raised citizens. With ICE targeting people based on skin color, what should a citizen do to protect themselves?

proberts · 1h ago
These are unprecedented times where green card status and even citizenship can be taken away. I think that all that one can do is to know one's rights and have the name and number of a lawyer handy who can be contacted in the event the worst happens. The ACLU has some very clear guidance regarding the rights of U.S. citizens and non-U.S. citizens when questioned or detained by ICE (or another immigration agency).
proberts · 1h ago
Thank you for the great questions and comments. I will be taking a brief break and will return shortly.
dilyar85 · 1h ago
Thanks for being here and taking the time to answer questions.

I’m currently on an L1B visa with company A. I have an approved H1B (consular processing, not yet activated) for company B. If I get an offer from company C, is it possible to switch directly from L1B to H1B with company C while staying in the U.S.? In other words, can company C file a change of status to activate the H1B?

proberts · 1h ago
Yes, this is possible but it the petition has to be prepared the right way to avoid USCIS responding with a request for evidence saying that company C needs to go through the H-1B lottery before it can employ you.
abafterratic872 · 2h ago
Hi Peter, thanks for doing this.

For myself as a UK citizen, what are the most realistic options for obtaining a visa to work in the US? The H1B is the main one I'm familiar with, but with the lottery and the one year application cycle it doesn't seem an easy route. The other option I'm aware of is the L1, do you know how realistic it is to obtain one of those? I don't currently work for a multinational company but would look to move jobs if an L1 visa was a possibility.

Are there any other realistic routes available?

proberts · 1h ago
The L-1 is very easy through a large multinational company after a year of employment with that company outside the U.S. and is attainable although more difficult through a small multinational company. The other options are the E-2 (treaty investor visa), which could allow you to work for a British-owned company in the U.S., or the O-1 (extraordinary ability visa), which requires a relatively high level of achievement but is often attainable by talented professionals.
r_thambapillai · 49m ago
Should I hire a lawyer to fill out the form to apply for citizenship as a Green Card (marriage) holder
proberts · 3m ago
Unless you have an issue (that is, a criminal record, a history of immigration violations/fraud, or extended absences from the U.S. while a green card holder), it's an easy application and process and doesn't require assistance from a lawyer.
mindwok · 2h ago
I'm Australian and have always wondered about how easy it is to get an E-3 visa. What does it take from the sponsoring companies side to actually do it and get me over there?
proberts · 2h ago
We handle a lot of E-3 visas and it's arguably the easiest U.S. work visa to get both from a company standpoint and an applicant/employee standpoint. The company requirements are minimal. For example, startups with limited or no revenue and limited or no funding can sponsor an E-3 visa. That being said, there is a prevailing wage requirement so a company - while it doesn't need to demonstrate to a U.S. Consulate its ability to pay a specific wage - in the end has to be able to pay a specific wage.
mindwok · 10m ago
Wow, that is unexpectedly relaxed given what I've heard about US immigration. Thanks for the info!
AnotherGoodName · 1h ago
Australian who's been in the USA almost a decade in 4 different roles, each requiring a new E3 as well as multiple E3 renewals;

I've found that companies are pretty eager once they hear that you only need an E3 visa. Unlike H1B the quota for E3 visas are never hit. Companies view it as a very straightforward and guaranteed process.

Assuming the company files their side of the paperwork in a timely manner, From accepting a role you can be working in the USA within 2 months end to end. The consulate appointments in Syd/Mel are the biggest pain point. It takes some refreshing since they are booked out for months at a time and you need to look for cancellations each day. That's literally the biggest pain point though, everything else is painless.

mindwok · 9m ago
Great info, thank you. How's working there compared to Aus? Do you enjoy it?
somanyphotons · 1h ago
Anecdotally, the E-3 is very easy compared to other options
loteck · 1h ago
Hi Peter - do you have any specific thoughts for people posting about immigration scenarios here, to help keep themselves safe? Given that it was recently revealed that ICE is monitoring these comments.[0][1]

[0] https://www.404media.co/the-200-sites-an-ice-surveillance-co...

[1] https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1VyAaJaWCutyJyMiTXuDH...

proberts · 38m ago
Everyone has to weigh the pros and cons for themselves but I think that being well-informed is the best defense so to speak, that is, to know what one's rights are and what the law is, so I think these open forums play an important role.
nonethewiser · 34m ago
Attorney status confirmed
haiku2077 · 53m ago
(not peter)

It is absolutely wild that people are posting about the ways that they have broken the letter of immigration law on here using their regular accounts and identifiable IP addresses.

Spivak · 40m ago
Serious question, does anyone actually care about immigration law at this point? Because on the surface it doesn't seem to matter if you followed the law exactly or you completely ignored it if you're someone targeted by ICE. They seem to find their target and then work backwards on how to deport them. Is anyone who wouldn't normally be in the sights of an ICE agent getting targeted by some HN comment?
toomuchtodo · 33m ago
When the cost of failure is high, and the cost of mitigation is low, I think it's reasonable to use throwaways and VPNs whenever you might comment something that might unknowingly increase your risk exposure. Admittedly, this is going to be a pain for forum anti abuse systems.
nonethewiser · 33m ago
So how are Abrego Garcia and Mahmoud Khalil not deported?
TechDebtDevin · 1h ago
Why are they monitoring Zillow...
haiku2077 · 55m ago
Zillow has rental management services - i.e. there are people who pay their rent though zillow.com
ghostly_s · 55m ago
because securing housing is a big part of residing somewhere?
threway742 · 2h ago
Hi there, I'm working in the UK on a work visa. I previously applied for a US position at Fermilab and NASA ADS. Although, I didn't get the position I was told the H-1B visa process for these positions was much simpler (not through lottery) as they fall under a special category.

Can you advise other what other sectors offer these privileges? Also, if I get the H-1B through this process, am I allowed to switch to a different employer in the future?

proberts · 2h ago
Those organizations are "H-1B cap-exempt" organizations that are not subject to the annual H-1B lottery. Cap-exempt organizations include non-profit institutes of higher education, organizations affiliated with these institutes (like hospitals), non-profits primarily engaged in research, and government research organizations, like Fermilab and NASA. If you get a cap-exempt H-1B, you could transfer to another cap-exempt organization but you would not be able to transfer to a cap-subject private for-profit entity although you could get approved for part-time concurrent employment with such an entity.
htrp · 26m ago
> although you could get approved for part-time concurrent employment with such an entity.

Can you elaborate on what you mean here?

tears-in-rain · 1h ago
Hello! I may not be as knowledgeable about immigration as previous speakers, but could you provide me with a bullet-point list of the latest legal requirements? I’d like some guidance as someone currently outside the U.S. who wants to work in your country. Thanks.
proberts · 1h ago
The options will depend in part on this person's countries of citizenship and qualifications. There are a handful of citizenship-specific visa (the countries are Australia, Canada, Chile, Mexico, and Singapore), which usually are relatively easy to obtain. If the person doesn't qualify for one of these citizenship-specific visas, then the options will depend on his or her qualifications.
Kanishka2025 · 2h ago
Hi Peter, I wanted to know what all options are available other than H1B after F1 OPT visa expires to continue working in United States?
unhappy_meaning · 2h ago
Hello Mr. Roberts,

Thank you for doing this, as you know we've probably have seen some crazy news articles and segments of ICE agents arresting people all over the U.S. with some for good and some for wrong reasons. What is your advice or best practice for someone who is "wrongfully" approached by ICE agents but has legal status to be in the U.S.? (whether work visa or green card)

I've read that someone should carry their green card with them or if they have some sort of REAL ID mark on their drivers license it may help.

Thank you again for doing this!

bc569a80a344f9c · 2h ago
It’s a legal requirement to carry your green card with you at all times. INA 264(e) has required this for as long as I’ve been in the US (which is since 2004).

To be more specific:

>> (e) Every alien, eighteen years of age and over, shall at all times carry with him and have in his personal possession any certificate of alien registration or alien registration receipt card issued to him pursuant to subsection (d). Any alien who fails to comply with the provisions of this subsection shall be guilty of a misdemeanor and shall upon conviction for each offense be fined not to exceed $100 or be imprisoned not more than thirty days, or both.

Where evidence of registration is an I94 or a green card or whatever.

I’m constantly surprised how many permanent residents don’t do this.

dalyons · 1h ago
Personally I don’t carry my GC, because I’m far more likely to lose it than for anyone to ever ask for it. And it’s kind of a nightmare to replace, takes awhile and you can’t travel.

To put it another way, the $100 fine is less expensive to me than the consequences of losing it.

aylmao · 56m ago
If I understand the comment above correctly, one can carry an I94 too and those you can just print on the website [1]

I'm guessing there's no size requirements? If so it might be a good idea to just print four on an A4, and have one folded in your wallet, one tucked in your bag-pack, one in the car, etc.

[1]: https://i94.cbp.dhs.gov/search/recent-search

xmprt · 1h ago
They can also put you in jail for up to 30 days if they're feeling like it. Seems crazy to me but also perfectly legal for them to do.
unsui · 48m ago
There are a lot of things that are "perfectly legal" to do. Doesn't mean that, in practice, law enforcement would necessarily take the most extreme legal action possible.

This is a new development (well, new-ish for many communities... I imagine predominatly-black communities have always experience this) whereby LE is explicitly instructed to look for any legal course of action to punitively enforce the law (rather than using a more judicious interpretation, which was more in line with the spirit of many of these regulations).

So yes, technically, law-abiding citizens should always xxxx. Does that mean that, in real life, folks always do this? Only if they are in a paranoid state whereby LE maliciously enforces the law for any minor violation and enforces overwhelming (often illegal) responses to these infractions.

haiku2077 · 42m ago
> Only if they are in a paranoid state whereby LE maliciously enforces the law for any minor violation and enforces overwhelming (often illegal) responses to these infractions.

ICE operates in every state. e.g. US citizens are being jailed in California (https://apnews.com/article/us-army-veteran-immigration-raid-...)

amanaplanacanal · 16m ago
It sounds like the current administration is specifically targeting democratic stronghold states, but I don't know if that means you would be any safer in Republican majority states.
smsm42 · 1h ago
Many don't do this because they don't feel the need. I've spent about a decade in the US as a green card holder, and the only cases I ever been asked for it is either crossing the border or being hired. And I never heard about anyone being fined (let alone going to prison) for failure to carry the green card on them. Yes, the law says that, but I don't think anybody paid much attention to that, at least until now.
TechDebtDevin · 1h ago
You act as if the last 6 months are a continuation of the the last 9.5 years, and there is some status quo that hasn't changed. Maybe for an affluent SWE in his Tesla, but this isn't the case for many on their way to work in a construction work van.
klipt · 35m ago
Enforcement is at the discretion of the Executive (President). If the President decides they want to pump up the numbers of deported criminals, doing anything that's technically a crime as an immigrant is a risky proposition. Even saying you do it on a public forum is risky.
ghostly_s · 54m ago
Are you user proberts?
proberts · 2h ago
The best defense so to speak is to carry evidence of your status whether that's a green card or foreign passport and I-94 admission record, to have the number of a local immigration attorney whom you can call if you need to, and to be aware of one's rights. The ACLU has a good discussion of these rights: https://www.aclu.org/know-your-rights/immigrants-rights.
kjellsbells · 1h ago
What would you recommend for foreign born US citizens worried about being approached by ICE? What are the basic ground rules for interacting?

For example, some of us here look very much like we didnt grow up in an Iowa cornfield and have genuine concern that one negative interaction is going to result in being roughed up by untrained ICE agents at best and tossed into jail or worse.

Do we just get used to the idea of carrying our passport at all times? Is an ICE agent authorized to demand it and take it from us "for checking", say?

Bar two pieces of fragile paper - a passport and a naturalization certificate - it's not obvious that a citizen is a citizen.

smsm42 · 1h ago
Carry a REAL-ID enabled state ID? Those are not available to illegals in any state. All newer state IDs AFAIK are REAL-ID enabled by default. And you probably will need to use some form of ID anyway pretty frequently.

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somanyphotons · 1h ago
(I'm not Peter)

I'd suggest also applying for a Passport Card, you can keep it in your wallet.

AdventureMouse · 1h ago
Hey Peter! What are some of the most common legal mistakes you see startups make and how can they be avoided?
poki89 · 3h ago
Hi Peter, My H-1B status is set to expire in November of this year, marking the end of my 6-year limit. My NIW (EB-2) petition is currently under review. In the event that my NIW is approved after my H-1B has expired, would my employer still be able to file for an H-1B extension on my behalf?
proberts · 3h ago
Yes, because the EB2 (NIW) green card category is "backlogged," your employer will be able to file a 3-year extension (beyond your 6-year max-out date) once your NIW petition is approved.
kyawzazaw · 2h ago
What's the fastest timeline to get green card under EB-3? What things does the employer company does that could speed things up like batch process, generic existing applicable job posting?
proberts · 2h ago
Country of birth is the most important factor. Certain countries, most notably China and India, have significant backlogs and the process can take many years. For those not from a heavily backlogged country, the ways to speed up the green card process are limited, including, during the PERM process, commencing recruitment when the prevailing wage request is submitted (and not yet approved) and using recruitment to cover multiple positions/employees. And then, once the PERM application is approved, using premium processing to accelerate the approval of the next step, the I-140 petition.
HiHelloBolke · 1h ago
Im a Canadian, I want to expand my business to US - what’s the right way to do that and use that for green card?
y-curious · 3h ago
Hi there, love your little series. Are you seeing any clients face deportation while possessing greencards? If so, can you share some context as to why and what recourse they have?
proberts · 3h ago
Thanks. Not yet. But there are reports, as I'm sure you have seen, of DHS revisiting previously approved green card and citizenship applications with an eye toward revoking them.
poohonbreak1 · 2h ago
Hi Peter, I am on a H1B visa; Is it allowed to run a company by myself if I never take out the revenue off the company bank account (so, effectively unrealized gains).
proberts · 2h ago
The analysis is nuanced and the answer (which can be Yes or No) depends on a variety factors, such as what "running" the company involves, whether there are multiple founders, what the corporate structure of the company is, whether the company is generating revenues, whether the company has clients, whether the company has received funding, and whether the company has employees. To state the obvious, before embarking on such a venture, get a consultation so that you understand what's possible and what you can and can't do. There's also the option of getting a concurrent part-time H-1B to actually work for your startup.
bumblebee331 · 3h ago
I just got my green card but the category mentioned on it is wrong (E18 instead of E17). Is there an action I need to take? Separately, can I use the existing card to travel outside the US and reenter?
square_usual · 3h ago
Hey Peter! Thank you again for doing this series. Apologies for the broad question, but do you think it applying for PERM during the current administration is a good idea? My understanding was that in the first Trump administration, PERM denials went up quite a bit, and with immigration being an even larger concern for the second administration I'm wondering if it makes sense holding out for a few years if that's a possibility.
proberts · 2h ago
As odd as it might sound, there seems to be an effort on the part of the DOL to speed up the processing of PERM applications, which are now taking longer than ever. From an outcome standpoint, I haven't seen an uptick in denials or bad decisions.
vFunct · 2h ago
Are non-US citizens banned from working on <2nm GAA technologies? What are the ITAR limits on non-US citizens from working on these tech? Can we incorporate in another country to allow hiring on non-US citizens to work on <2nm GAA technologies?
KK7NIL · 1h ago
No, at Intel Foundry we have plenty of non-citizens working on sub 2 nm technology (me included).

I haven't seen any ITAR restrictions on logic nodes, only on 70+ GHz RF and adjacent work that obviously has a direct application to radar.

ronaldgperson · 2h ago
i'm probably going to marry my american partner next year and thinking of moving to america. what are (generally speaking) my options for working? coming from the united kingdom.
aliljet · 2h ago
What is the likelihood today that Trump and his allies in Congress may improve the ability for H1B holders to obtain green cards? This was repeatedly raised during his campaign and his first weeks in office and it sounded like this was going to be a thing....
mertleee · 1h ago
Given the newly (as of yesterday) appointed chief of USCIS was just confirmed and has a marked history of strong opinions against OPT in it's entirety and H1B - I'd assume it's not looking good haha.
proberts · 2h ago
I haven't heard anything about this since he's taken office and I suspect that if something like this is done that it will be limited to those in certain fields and industries.
gdbsjjdn · 2h ago
Only if you're a Russian model willing to marry one of his cronies
Muromec · 35m ago
That's O-1(BJ) type of visa, not h1b
kappi · 2h ago
why is ycombinator promoting immigration thru H1B when so many US born CS grads are finding it hard to get job. In 2023, American colleges graduated 134,153 citizens or green card holders with bachelor's or master's degrees in computer science. That same year, our federal government handed out work permits to at least 110,098 foreign workers in computer occupations through just three major guest worker programs. That's equal to 82% of our graduating class who are guaranteed jobs even before any Americans walk across the stage for their diploma. https://ifspp.substack.com/p/data-on-how-america-sold-out-it...
mertleee · 1h ago
It's disgusting.

Many VC firms outside of YC flagrantly promote what is basically fraud. There are literally YC companies that provide pseudo visa fraud as a service.

Following the law and having respect for the immigration system is simply seen as an "inconvenient challenge" to these people.

I myself am a person of color, but in the cohort I was in (of 30) maybe three individuals were native born Americans of any race. The rest were exclusively Canadian immigrants largely from India and China (not actually born in Canada). It's also quite common in the US for people to work on visitor VISA's while applying for O1s.

To name a few...

https://extraordinary.com/ (promulgated by https://x.com/0xsigil?lang=en)

https://www.ycombinator.com/companies/gale

https://www.deel.com/paid-lp/immigration/

ge96 · 50m ago
On my LinkedIn saw some guy saying "Hit me up if you want EB-1 I know a guy" not sure what it entails but was weird to promote that. Guy is a hustler/grinder though in general.
mertleee · 35m ago
Some of these "visa as a service" startups offer incentives and pseudo cash (or even cash) referral incentives. Which is actually illegal both in CA and Federally.
onepremise · 34m ago
Immigration is actually directly related to how CEOs and VCs intend to change the landscape for all things government related, and democracy as a whole. There is very much a subjective intent to tear down the rule of law, the rights that safeguard Americans as a whole, starting with immigration. IT's an entry point, a target to whittle away basic rights of the average American. Peter Thiel touches on this need for a tech revolution in his paper "The Straussian Moment", https://www.hoover.org/research/peter-thiel-straussian-momen..., who also funded JD Vance's rise to VP, and DJT.

These guys, "Tech Bros", love the concepts written in Srinivasan's book "the Network State", and want to replace our current government with distributed monarchies. Srinivasan, Thiel, Andresen, and Curtis Yarvin actually have a documented plan to achieve this which is being executed, to a "T", which involves attacking immigration, not just as a distraction so they can attack the courts directly, but also cause it's part of their vision. This plan is referred to the butterfly revolution, by Curtis Yarvin, which states the following:

1. Reboot (“full-power start”) Suspend or bypass existing constitutional limits; concentrate absolute sovereignty in one new organization—analogous to Allied occupation powers in post-1945 Japan/Germany. Eliminate checks and balances that block rapid change.

2. CEO-Monarch model A single executive (chosen like a corporate CEO) rules; the former president becomes a figurehead “chairman of the board.” Treat the state as a firm run for efficiency, not democratic representation.

3. RAGE strategy “Retire All Government Employees” by mass-firing the civil service and replacing it with loyal appointees. Remove institutional resistance (“the Cathedral”) and ensure obedience.

4. Parallel regime Build a fully staffed shadow government in exile before inauguration; unveil it on Day 1 to take over agencies at once. Prevent the bureaucratic slow-rolling that stymied Trump’s first term.

5. Media & academia clampdown Defund or shutter universities and independent press seen as hostile. Break what Yarvin calls the Cathedral’s cultural dominance.

Curtis Yarvin's writings include pointed attacks on immigration, both as a policy and as a reflection of deeper systemic problems. He uses immigration as an example to argue for the failure of democracy and to advocate for his preferred model of authoritarian governance. He also frames immigration debates as distractions from what he sees as the real issues-namely, the incompetence and self-serving nature of current elites and institutions.

Do you understand why the current administration would want to attack immigration? Altman, Theil, and others(Tech Bros) that manage YC, Palantir, OpenAI. A16Z prescribe to these beliefs. It is no secret, no conspiracy, they publicly talk about this. How do you feel about their approach, and YC's involvement, to changing governance and the future of our country? How do feel about Immigration as a tactic to attack the judicial branch as well assault innocent legal civilians with ICE, which is part of their reboot strategy?

mertleee · 26m ago
My girlfriend is an immigrant from the UK. I support immigration but only if it respects the rights of US citizens.

Frankly I'm stunned this post hasn't been flagged by one of HN's moderators yet.

Truly sad to see YC clearly play favorites with non-citizens claiming what can be found within the U.S. isn't good enough.

onepremise · 12m ago
YC does try to bury this topic, but it needs to be discussed. Developer and engineers need to be aware of the intent some of these corporations have in mind for their temporary employment. I say temporary as they intend to automate away the whole workforce and build utopias in their name. This isn't secret or a "deep state", they've plainly stated this agenda publicly and have written material online selling this agenda to other billionaires. Look at https://www.praxisnation.com. This is also referred to as Freedom Cities in Trumps presser: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dJA_GBhCGgE Many people will die in the pursuit of this :/
tombert · 2h ago
So, I have a wife who just got her citizenship. We're very happy about that.

Concerning, though, is the current presidential administration's talk of trying to do large-scale denaturalization of citizens.

I know you don't have the ability to read minds, but would you care to hazard a guess to much of this is the president just blowing smokes or how worried I should be?

AkshatM · 47m ago
(Not Peter, not a lawyer)

It is hard not to be moderately worried, since the administration has already made concrete attacks on citizenship pathways, immigrants and legal residents. Most notably, it's targeted birthright citizenship via executive order, tried to push through the power to unilaterally revoke green cards, and arbitrarily cancelling the ability of universities to host foreign students.

More importantly, successful legal challenges to these efforts are being vacated or reversed by the Supreme Court. That means the administration's attempts aren't being fully checked by balances.

You should take the rhetoric fairly seriously. There is no good-faith explanation for this pattern of attacking people who have gone through the process faithfully, and no credible ongoing efforts to prevent those happening.

sterlind · 36m ago
(not Peter.)

she can only be denaturalized if:

1. she lied or concealed any past convictions (or maybe other information) on her visa/GC/citizenship application. in the past they only went after serious omissions like felonies, but now they'll go over any minor mistake with a fine-tooth comb. courts have held in the past that such omissions must have material significance to the decision (e.g. lying about a degree obtained, but not a typo about graduation year.)

2. she joins the Communist party or another totalitarian party within 5 years of becoming a citizen. expect them to interpret this broadly (e.g. supporting causes rather than officially joining, counting DSA as "totalitarian.") she should keep her head down, unfortunately.

Source: https://immigrationforum.org/article/denaturalization-fact-s...

tombert · 9m ago
I don't think she'll join a party any more radical than "Democrat", and we were extremely thorough with the lawyer to make sure everything on the application was completely honest.

If what you're saying is true, then I maybe shouldn't worry too much.

kwar13 · 2h ago
Can you convince YC to have programs outside the US by any chance? It's not exactly easy getting into the USA these days and by no means a smooth experience either.
whoamii · 1h ago
After you convince Europe to make it easier to have such programs.
roncesvalles · 21m ago
Good news, Canada exists!
mertleee · 1h ago
Convince them to adopt air-conditioning first