It would be poetic if Elon Musk gets his citizenship canceled, assets seized and deported to El Salvador due to the alleged irregularities with his US visa.
Not that I wish him this but I just can't keep myself thinking about it considering that Musk tried to deport other immigrants pretty hard. I know people from Ivy league universities in USA getting their student visa canceled for parking tickets, speeding or laud partying.
ZeroGravitas · 1d ago
I do wish that for him. He would deserve it.
Steve Bannon is calling for an investigation into Musk's immigration irregularities. Would be fun to watch but probably too much to hope for.
bn-l · 23h ago
Why would that be fun to watch?
cherry_tree · 22h ago
>Schadenfreude is the experience of pleasure, joy, or self-satisfaction that comes from learning of or witnessing the troubles, failures, pain, suffering, or humiliation of another. It is a loanword from German. Schadenfreude has been detected in children as young as 24 months and may be an important social emotion establishing "inequity aversion".[1]
> Justice-based schadenfreude comes from seeing that behavior seen as immoral or "bad" is punished. It is the pleasure associated with seeing a "bad" person being harmed or receiving retribution. Schadenfreude is experienced here because it makes people feel that fairness has been restored for a previously un-punished wrong, and is a type of moral emotion.
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codedokode · 1d ago
The troll getting trolled sound like fun.
dismalaf · 1d ago
As a Canadian... Popcorn time ;-)
archagon · 1d ago
This saga is starting to remind me of a certain Russian “chef.”
busyant · 7h ago
Can someone explain this reference?
My best guess is that this is an allusion to Rasputin, but: a) I'm probably wrong and b) I don't understand the chef part.
Prigozhin was known as Putin's Chef. He ran a mercenary army until he turned on Putin, at which put he died in a plane crash.
busyant · 6h ago
Thank you.
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steveBK123 · 1d ago
Money does seem to poison most mens minds, but some far more than others.
duxup · 1d ago
There's an interesting theory about social media and these two guys (AND others regardless of political spectrum) that the writer calls "Twitter poisoning":
This is an Ayn Rand novel happening in real time. As an enjoyer of Ayn Rand, I'm feeling tingly.
Remember: if he so wants, Musk can get access to all the private messages that MAGA people DM'ed each other on X (well into the past).
A lot of vanity bonfires can happen.
burnt-resistor · 19h ago
Please leave the utopian accelerationism and libertarianism and fiction at the door, thanks. I'd rather have an open society with competent, sane leadership that doesn't kowtow to billionaires or throws away safety regulations written in blood for the sake of "small government" or "abundance".
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jefurii · 1d ago
Kayfabe. Remember Trump's involvement with pro wrestling and all the nonsense that goes along with that.
duxup · 1d ago
>Kayfabe
I don't think Elon brings up Epstein if they're just messing around.
dragonwriter · 1d ago
Epstein is perfectly safe for Elon to bring up; Trump's association is well known, and everyone who supports Trump has already discarded it, and everyone who opposes Trump has already weighed it into their opinion as much as they are going to; nothing is moved by it.
ben_w · 1d ago
Hmm. Could be.
But are both of their egos up to remembering it's fake? Musk might, he used that to back down in 2019, but can Trump ever back down?
danso · 8h ago
He didn’t just claim that Trump was in the Epstein files, he asserted that that was the reason that the yet-unreleased files are being prevented from release.
techpineapple · 1d ago
Maybe, but Trump can take that Kayfabe pretty far, he has a history of sort of disproportionately screwing over the people closest to him.
Flatcircle · 1d ago
All Elon has to do is wait 1.5 years and Trump has no power
ceejayoz · 1d ago
He's pissed off both teams, now.
duxup · 1d ago
If he can keep his mouth shut for a while, I bet he can donate some campaign funds and get some favors, from almost anyone.
ceejayoz · 1d ago
> If he can keep his mouth shut for a while…
Yeah, that's not happening.
pityJuke · 1d ago
A literal fact, he posts an average of 220 times per week post Twitter takeover. [0]
Feels like the obvious outcome from the start. I still wonder why Musk drunk from the poisoned chalice of the doge.
dismalaf · 1d ago
> I still wonder why Musk drunk from the poisoned chalice of the doge
Probably the chance to download a bunch of government data.
minimaxir · 1d ago
That tweet is the equivalent of crossing the Rubicon. There's no going back for him.
ben_w · 1d ago
Musk has crossed that river's tributaries so many times since 2019, including with what looks suspiciously like bribing the electorate to get Trump into office, that historians will be arguing for centuries about which exact error was ultimately Musk's undoing.
TheAlchemist · 1d ago
Elon may have forgotten while writing this tweet, probably under drugs influence, that he was not born in the US, was there illegaly for some period of time, and that his companies are 99% depenedent on the US government.
Which is run by an 80 years old narcissist and wannabe dictator.
lawn · 1d ago
It would be hilarious if Trump deported Musk.
But alas, he's rich and white so it's extremely unlikely.
iamtheworstdev · 1d ago
i don't think skin color protects any of us from this administration. (the money? maybe)
Like you, I'm not so sure the money won't. But at the same time, I think about half Musk's money is an absurd overpricing of Tesla shares, and most of the rest is SpaceX, only minimal resaleable stuff in xAI and x.com, even less in TBC and Neuralink — if there was suddenly no FAA approval for flights, no help selling Starlink to everyone (worldwide), SpaceX just dies.
rasz · 1d ago
Musk surely has a backup plan. There is always China, and russia.
lazystar · 15h ago
these two are masters of social media. occams razor suggests that they planned this in advance for some other purpose. my guess is theyre hoping this will cause tesla stock to rise.
awb · 14h ago
Actually, Occam’s razor would suggest that their words be taken at face value. A hidden agenda is not the simplest explanation.
steveBK123 · 11h ago
Especially when it comes to rich mens egos..
aisenik · 6h ago
Occam's Razor should not be used for self-harm. Two of the guys at the head of the biggest open conspiracies in the world are likely to be conspiring if their actions result in favorable conditions.
This social media spat is happening immediately after "Welcomefest," a bizarre Republican-light centrist conference, and positions Elon Musk to capture the centrist Democratic apparatus. This follows a pattern of fecklessness and capitulation from the party's power centers, including major Democratic figures advocating for realignment with MAGA on core issues.
There's another pattern too: we have seen a concerted effort from the MAGA movement to capture societal institutions and forcibly reform them into alignment with their radical agenda to replace the US Constitution. Aligning the DNC into a technocratic fascist organization that supports their monarchic visions of domination will be an incredible humiliation (though far from the last). And quite simple.
I'm going to assume conspiracy from the guys arrogant enough to get caught boasting that the opposition is too credulous to accept an open conspiracy.
awb · 5h ago
I’m not debating the potential accuracy of anyone’s interpretation, just commenting on the degree of simplicity of those interpretations.
It’s a Razor, not a law, so it isn’t going to be 100% accuracy or predictive. But to suggest that the Razor can be used in conjunction with a long, complex explanation is a contradiction.
Not that I wish him this but I just can't keep myself thinking about it considering that Musk tried to deport other immigrants pretty hard. I know people from Ivy league universities in USA getting their student visa canceled for parking tickets, speeding or laud partying.
Steve Bannon is calling for an investigation into Musk's immigration irregularities. Would be fun to watch but probably too much to hope for.
[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schadenfreude
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My best guess is that this is an allusion to Rasputin, but: a) I'm probably wrong and b) I don't understand the chef part.
Prigozhin was known as Putin's Chef. He ran a mercenary army until he turned on Putin, at which put he died in a plane crash.
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https://www.nytimes.com/2022/11/11/opinion/trump-musk-kanye-...
Remember: if he so wants, Musk can get access to all the private messages that MAGA people DM'ed each other on X (well into the past).
A lot of vanity bonfires can happen.
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I don't think Elon brings up Epstein if they're just messing around.
But are both of their egos up to remembering it's fake? Musk might, he used that to back down in 2019, but can Trump ever back down?
Yeah, that's not happening.
Ditto for his current opposition! [1]
[0]: https://www.economist.com/briefing/2024/11/21/elon-musks-tra...
[1]: https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2025/06/03/trump-t...
That aside, and speaking as someone who is very left leaning, a lot of the party is in fact cringe RN for lots of other reasons.
https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1930703865801810022
This is gonna get messy.
Feels like the obvious outcome from the start. I still wonder why Musk drunk from the poisoned chalice of the doge.
Probably the chance to download a bunch of government data.
Which is run by an 80 years old narcissist and wannabe dictator.
But alas, he's rich and white so it's extremely unlikely.
Like you, I'm not so sure the money won't. But at the same time, I think about half Musk's money is an absurd overpricing of Tesla shares, and most of the rest is SpaceX, only minimal resaleable stuff in xAI and x.com, even less in TBC and Neuralink — if there was suddenly no FAA approval for flights, no help selling Starlink to everyone (worldwide), SpaceX just dies.
This social media spat is happening immediately after "Welcomefest," a bizarre Republican-light centrist conference, and positions Elon Musk to capture the centrist Democratic apparatus. This follows a pattern of fecklessness and capitulation from the party's power centers, including major Democratic figures advocating for realignment with MAGA on core issues.
There's another pattern too: we have seen a concerted effort from the MAGA movement to capture societal institutions and forcibly reform them into alignment with their radical agenda to replace the US Constitution. Aligning the DNC into a technocratic fascist organization that supports their monarchic visions of domination will be an incredible humiliation (though far from the last). And quite simple.
I'm going to assume conspiracy from the guys arrogant enough to get caught boasting that the opposition is too credulous to accept an open conspiracy.
It’s a Razor, not a law, so it isn’t going to be 100% accuracy or predictive. But to suggest that the Razor can be used in conjunction with a long, complex explanation is a contradiction.