Ask HN: Is anyone using AI conversation partners?

8 rickcarlino 12 5/28/2025, 2:49:58 AM
I'm obsessed with applying LLMs to language learning software. One thing I am not-so-obsessed with is a wave of conversational chat apps that many startups have begun offering. Having tried them myself, I find them to be quite bland ("Tell me about your day!" ) and often use a speech style that uses direct translation of English phrases into the target language.

I see plenty of potential for LLMs in this space, but the conversation bots I have seen so far are too open-ended and seem half baked.

For users: Is anyone finding these tools helpful?

For the people building them: Are people actually returning to the product?

Comments (12)

vouaobrasil · 7m ago
To be honest, nothing beats practising with a real person. Maybe you could instead build a new and cooler way to have short chats with random people from different languages instead, which would be much better than interacting with a soulless piece of tech.
washadjeffmad · 27m ago
One of my first character cards, a Latin tutor, was modeled after Father Reginald Foster.

It was overly ambitious for the foundational models at the time, even more so for any small enough for local use prior to quantization, but I think any premier reasoning model today would work well enough.

duckkg5 · 37m ago
I made a phone-based one to teach me how to cold call because I fucking hate cold calling but needed to learn to sell
rickcarlino · 20m ago
Would love to see a blog about your approach and the results.
spartanatreyu · 35m ago
Am I using them: No.

Do I find these tools helpful?

How would a bot that has no impact on the world itself be useful? The only thing it could affect would be me. Which is less useful than everything non-bot that I can talk to (i.e. people), since people can both impact the world and affect me anyway.

r0fl · 57m ago
I use ChatGPT and grok voice multiple times per week. There is nothing those 2 combined cannot do.
kibibu · 30m ago
Given the work to deliberately introduce right-wing bias and talking points into Grok, I don't think I would feel comfortable using it for any reason, but particularly for a "conversational partner".
add-sub-mul-div · 11m ago
So far it seems like their desire to do that and their incompetence have canceled each other out.
outside1234 · 1h ago
I have honestly just been using ChatGPT itself. It is devastatingly good for written language learning and I suspect it is only a matter of time before it is that good for verbal needs.
lostmsu · 1h ago
What do you think is lacking in OpenAI voice?
nolroz · 36m ago
I wish they didn't take out the "off the screen" outputs from the previous voice mode. I miss being able to ask it to output an image or codeblock when I wanted to come back to something later.
outside1234 · 38m ago
Just the latency and naturalness of the conversation. Then again, I haven’t tried it for a month, so perhaps it is time to try again.