My first big startup had the following on the cover of the business plan (it disrupted consulting):
“Some think,
Some do,
Some both,
But few”.
Got that from a lecturer.
karmakaze · 1h ago
> Toulouse noted that Poincaré kept very regular hours. He did his hardest thinking between 10 a.m. and noon, and again between 5 and 7 in the afternoon. The 19th century’s most towering mathematical genius worked just enough to get his mind around a problem—about four hours a day.
The two 2-hour hard thinking hours chart was the most useful takeaway for me.
tangue · 7h ago
And talkers… How many thinkers died without self promoting their ideas ? How many doers didn’t have the ressources to execute their ideas ?
okr · 2h ago
Isn't a doer without ressources a thinker?
accrual · 1h ago
Reminds me of a quote (paraphrasing), "a vector without a force is not a useful vector". I thought it was by Theo de Raadt (OpenBSD team lead), but not finding it in a search.
The opposite makes sense too, a vector with magnitude but no direction isn't super useful on its own either.
kookamamie · 7h ago
Cookie Policy cannot be accepted on mobile. Chrome/iOS.
mistrate · 3h ago
Have been noticing this recently with substack.
What works for me on iOS is to first scroll down until the "subscribe" splash, close it, and then reject the cookies.
Sometimes I still need to click some combination of "only necessary" and "reject" a few more times
blankx32 · 1h ago
Same, reader mode to avoid
chgs · 5h ago
Sad thing is the performance and experience would be far better if they didn’t ask me to set some unnecessary cookies.
But then they couldn’t sell my data.
fluidcruft · 5h ago
No problems whatsoever with Firefox Focus/Android.
konmaz · 6h ago
Same on Chrome/Android
betterThanTexas · 4h ago
I'm struggling to figure out why you'd pick Musk as an example of a doer when you also can't distinguish coalescing money and talent from the thing money and talent does. What distinguishes doers from capital being capital? How do you distinguish between a "generational genius" and a useful idiot?
mpnsk1 · 3h ago
I think you hit the nail on the head why we are in a doers world. Musk is a good representation for doers not because of what he does and achieves, but because of the way he whips his employees into shape.
He is very vocally against giving resources to thinkers and letting them slow cook.
betterThanTexas · 1h ago
I suppose. It's difficult to view capital as "doing" anything but entrenching itself. We're still stuck with the same power structures as we had before; none of neuralink or starlink or tesla or spacex will fundamentally change anything about our world.
Like, it is true that capital is responsible for the charging networks being deployed across america. But it's this same deployment of resources that is also responsible for my needing a damn car to do anything in life, and it has zero plan on doing anything about that.
I find the analysis of this without addressing what should people be doing do be a nearly useless view of humanity. What can be gleaned from this aside from seeing that the people with the greatest impact care the least about their impact?
asdf6969 · 42m ago
Starlink is one of the few inventions that really could fundamentally change everything. It’s an enormous expansion of viable lifestyles and places to live. I know people who use it at the cottage, on a boat, while camping, etc. and if WFH + personal electricity generation (solar) improves the Jeffersonian yeoman software engineer fantasy could be real.
It really would fundamentally change my life and my relationship to power structures if I didn’t have to bend my whole life around living “in the system”.
Alternatively, Elon could just disable my life if I post something he doesn’t like online so maybe we’re not there yet…
Completely agree about neuralink and tesla
andrewrn · 11h ago
An article I enjoyed about leisure’s role in breakthroughs, in addition to hard work.
somethingsome · 7h ago
I'm not sold, there are thinkers and doers in both camps..
At some levels there is no line anymore.
EdwardDiego · 4h ago
> Which is why he has undeniably succeeded in doing incredibly hard things, things that many (most) said were well nigh impossible.
> Built an EV car company, operating at scale
He bought into a pre-existing company.
> Produced batteries for those cars at scale
How is the 4680 going? And is BYD eating its lunch yet? Last I looked they losing court cases over a particular dry cathode patent.
And well, BYD's new fast charging tech is far more performant than Tesla superchargers, multiple car makers (including Tesla!) are using their batteries not the 4680, so...
> Launched brand new self-made rockets to space, at scale, including catching them on a ship when they fell back from the sky!
That is indeed pretty cool, but did Elon actually do that? Also, how's Starship looking? Can it take more payload to orbit than a Falcon Heavy yet? Is it exploding less often?
> Bored tunnels cheaply
[citations really needed] If they can do this, the Boring Company isn't capitalising on it, I see a lot of cancelled projects, and only one where the public actually uses it (in Las Vegas).
But hey, Elon's definitely a doer, just you know, sometimes he's doing things that are very bad for the companies involved.
If he could stop trying to micromanage his companies, and just trust the very very very smart people who work there, and maybe I dunno, turn back time and not get radicalised on the Internet because his child transitioned, and avoid getting involved in politics in the absolute worst way possible, he'd accomplish so much more.
Someone once told me that Tesla and SpaceX largely succeeded in spite of Elon, and it rings true.
But I feel mean-spirited commenting this on a 3 year old post, that feels like an eternity ago in the Muskverse.
andrewrn · 1h ago
Man people really get hung up on the fact that he wasn’t there when Tesla was incorporated. Does that disqualify him from having done the heavy lifting in the 20+ year life of Tesla?
I’m ambivalent about the dude on a lot of points but I wish people would stop parroting that point as if it means anything.
Robotbeat · 3h ago
I can see how someone arrives at this if they have a pretty hermetically sealed information environment, but if you actually talk to people who worked extensively with Musk, it’s clear how laughably false it is.
EdwardDiego · 3h ago
My comments or the original? Happy to be illuminated if you have the time.
dotcoma · 4h ago
They lost me at Elon Musk’s wonderful Boring tunnels.
codr7 · 7h ago
You need all kinds to build great products imo.
Except slop prompters, no one needs those except the AI priests.
mattgreenrocks · 2h ago
Funny how quickly the prompt engineer meme died. Or rather, was reborn as vibe coding.
Juliate · 6h ago
I don't understand the reason for the bizarre I/II/III parts.
The real gist is in IV/V and you can easily skip directly to it. Or something still evades me.
ramon156 · 6h ago
Same goes for the midjourney image and the three quotes that add nothing. Just seems like a high school report filler
carlosjobim · 6h ago
Thinking is for idiots.
It's only when your start doing that you find out the things you never would have thought about.
Do things before you've made up your mind so you don't have time to regret it.
ethan_smith · 4h ago
The most effective doers engage in deliberate thinking first, but know exactly when to stop planning and start executing.
slfnflctd · 4h ago
Planning is absolutely essential.
However, "no plan survives contact with [the enemy]/[reality]/[stakeholders]/[users]/[etc.]"
You have to start doing things at some point, and revise your plans continuously. It's a delicate, interdependent dance.
The worst working situations I've been in almost all had to do with either lack of planning or refusal to abandon a clearly flawed plan. It's exhausting how many people fail to recognize when they need to change their behavior in one area or the other. It's not one or the other, it's both.
kbrkbr · 6h ago
So that is what you think?
novosel · 5h ago
That is what he wrote. By his account, he is not as of yet determined what he thinks.
“Some think, Some do, Some both, But few”.
Got that from a lecturer.
The two 2-hour hard thinking hours chart was the most useful takeaway for me.
The opposite makes sense too, a vector with magnitude but no direction isn't super useful on its own either.
What works for me on iOS is to first scroll down until the "subscribe" splash, close it, and then reject the cookies.
Sometimes I still need to click some combination of "only necessary" and "reject" a few more times
But then they couldn’t sell my data.
He is very vocally against giving resources to thinkers and letting them slow cook.
Like, it is true that capital is responsible for the charging networks being deployed across america. But it's this same deployment of resources that is also responsible for my needing a damn car to do anything in life, and it has zero plan on doing anything about that.
I find the analysis of this without addressing what should people be doing do be a nearly useless view of humanity. What can be gleaned from this aside from seeing that the people with the greatest impact care the least about their impact?
It really would fundamentally change my life and my relationship to power structures if I didn’t have to bend my whole life around living “in the system”.
Alternatively, Elon could just disable my life if I post something he doesn’t like online so maybe we’re not there yet…
Completely agree about neuralink and tesla
At some levels there is no line anymore.
> Built an EV car company, operating at scale
He bought into a pre-existing company.
> Produced batteries for those cars at scale
How is the 4680 going? And is BYD eating its lunch yet? Last I looked they losing court cases over a particular dry cathode patent.
And well, BYD's new fast charging tech is far more performant than Tesla superchargers, multiple car makers (including Tesla!) are using their batteries not the 4680, so...
> Launched brand new self-made rockets to space, at scale, including catching them on a ship when they fell back from the sky!
That is indeed pretty cool, but did Elon actually do that? Also, how's Starship looking? Can it take more payload to orbit than a Falcon Heavy yet? Is it exploding less often?
> Bored tunnels cheaply
[citations really needed] If they can do this, the Boring Company isn't capitalising on it, I see a lot of cancelled projects, and only one where the public actually uses it (in Las Vegas).
But hey, Elon's definitely a doer, just you know, sometimes he's doing things that are very bad for the companies involved.
If he could stop trying to micromanage his companies, and just trust the very very very smart people who work there, and maybe I dunno, turn back time and not get radicalised on the Internet because his child transitioned, and avoid getting involved in politics in the absolute worst way possible, he'd accomplish so much more.
Someone once told me that Tesla and SpaceX largely succeeded in spite of Elon, and it rings true.
But I feel mean-spirited commenting this on a 3 year old post, that feels like an eternity ago in the Muskverse.
I’m ambivalent about the dude on a lot of points but I wish people would stop parroting that point as if it means anything.
Except slop prompters, no one needs those except the AI priests.
The real gist is in IV/V and you can easily skip directly to it. Or something still evades me.
It's only when your start doing that you find out the things you never would have thought about.
Do things before you've made up your mind so you don't have time to regret it.
However, "no plan survives contact with [the enemy]/[reality]/[stakeholders]/[users]/[etc.]"
You have to start doing things at some point, and revise your plans continuously. It's a delicate, interdependent dance.
The worst working situations I've been in almost all had to do with either lack of planning or refusal to abandon a clearly flawed plan. It's exhausting how many people fail to recognize when they need to change their behavior in one area or the other. It's not one or the other, it's both.