My favorite application of dead reckoning is the early 80's Honda system to display the car location on a map. While testing the system, there were times where the car showed itself off of the road. After looking into it further, they learned the map maker had taken some liberties with the exact position of the road, and the vehicle was correct.
Interestingly, if you have good map data, the relative "shape" of you previous trajectory is enough to locate your position globally, without GPS, even without knowing where north is.
that's literally no different what Google Maps does in my car while in CarPlay mode. It's like Apple neuters it and don't give it full gyro/compass data, because when driving it constantly moves the "car" anywhere from 90 to 270 degress and keeps it there for a few seconds until it figures this out again. I checked all possible permissions and still can't figure it out.
Never happens on the Apple Maps, although I have 0 trust in siri and apple maps, especially when we travel to europe, i feel like i'm an experiment for apple to see how much off straight forward route it can make me take.
chneu · 4h ago
Not dead reckoning related but for some reason your comment made me think of this.
Map makers make mistakes on purpose. This way they know when someone copies their maps. They look for these little tiny "mistakes".
My favorite are the trap towns that didn't exist, but because of the maps with the trap towns on them a form of citogensis occurs and the town is bootstrapped into existence in the real world.
calvinmorrison · 55m ago
This seems like it's happening more and more with google maps. I see tons of "Trap Towns" and can't figure out of its realtors making up new neighborhood s to sell houses or them going on google maps, and putting google maps into reality.
eirikbakke · 17m ago
Reminds me of "In The Heart of the Sea: The Comedy of the Whaleship Essex" (a musical book report)
My favourite example of some humorous dead reckoning, from this old copypasta:
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The missile knows where it is at all times. It knows this because it knows where it isn't. By subtracting where it is from where it isn't, or where it isn't from where it is (whichever is greater), it obtains a difference, or deviation. The guidance subsystem uses deviations to generate corrective commands to drive the missile from a position where it is to a position where it isn't, and arriving at a position where it wasn't, it now is. Consequently, the position where it is, is now the position that it wasn't, and it follows that the position that it was, is now the position that it isn't.
In the event that the position that it is in is not the position that it wasn't, the system has acquired a variation, the variation being the difference between where the missile is, and where it wasn't. If variation is considered to be a significant factor, it too may be corrected by the GEA. However, the missile must also know where it was.
The missile guidance computer scenario works as follows. Because a variation has modified some of the information the missile has obtained, it is not sure just where it is. However, it is sure where it isn't, within reason, and it knows where it was. It now subtracts where it should be from where it wasn't, or vice-versa, and by differentiating this from the algebraic sum of where it shouldn't be, and where it was, it is able to obtain the deviation and its variation, which is called error.
This is like James Joyce describing a Kalman filter.
danw1979 · 2h ago
> the castaways had not seen any women in months, and based on the resulting unwanted attention, the indigenous people opted to evacuate before the English seamen became a problem.
chef kiss
thoroughburro · 2h ago
The western barbarians seem to have been quite an uncivilised menace.
seanhunter · 1h ago
My favourite dead reckoning anecdote[1] was there was this British naval captain who found himself in the Atlantic just a bit south-west of the Canary Islands in a lifeboat. He knew that the ocean currents would be against him and too strong to row against, so he set off for South America and made it there by rowing with the current and using dead reckoning to course correct.
[1] And this is from memory and a bunch of googling around hasn’t turned it up so pardon me if I get some details wrong.
lmm · 52m ago
Transatlantic by dead reckoning alone sounds impossibly difficult. Captain Bligh navigating 3500 nautical miles from Tahiti to Kupang in an open boat after being mutinied against was a celebrated feat of navigation, and he had the aid of a compass and a pocket watch.
Amazing story. I read the book and couldn't put it down. Highly recommended.
defrost · 9h ago
Notable for deadpan correct use of Ear regardless . . .
Worth the read.
heresie-dabord · 3h ago
Agreed, this article is well-written and rewarding to anyone capable of enjoying prose. Take the time to enjoy the article.
And for HN in particular, there is an ancestral link from the suffering crew of the ill-fated ship to the category of jobs that we have today.
I won't spoil it. But here is a clue: A.L.
someone7x · 18m ago
Thanks for the nudge, a well told story well worth the read.
card_zero · 5h ago
Oh irregardless. Clever. I admire how Alan spins these puns up with such casual breeziness, but of course I would say that because I'm a big fan.
foobahhhhh · 3h ago
Spoiler alert! That was brilliant. I read it then went back and like "hold on...."
louwrentius · 5h ago
Damn interesting has an amazing collection of high-quality podcast episodes with amazing story telling. They haven’t released new episodes in a while, but their back catalogue is worth investigating.
card_zero · 5h ago
It bugs me that the last episode is ominously called "A trail gone cold", and I wonder what went wrong.
trhway · 6h ago
The extremely hard travel around Cape Horn highlights the importance of the Panama and Suez channels, and i'm wondering whether Trump will surprisingly be vindicated by history for his steps toward getting the Northern Passage, ie. for the friendship with Russia and for the attempt to grab Greenland (or whether it will go down just the way it looks now :)
rokkamokka · 5h ago
Vindicated? God, no
louthy · 6h ago
> i'm wondering whether Trump will surprisingly be vindicated by history
He won’t. And those that went along with him will be judged poorly by it.
albert_e · 5h ago
> the Drake Passage was the least impractical route for large European ships to travel around South America to access its west coast.
"least impractical"?
Unintentional double negative, I think?
Currently it conveys the meaning of being "most practical" whereas it was the opposite.
louthy · 5h ago
I had to read that twice, but it’s correct I think. It’s an impractical route, but all the routes are… the Drake Passage was the least impractical of all of the routes.
throwanem · 2h ago
It's correct and as intended. "Least impractical" denotes "most practical" but the double negative, which you accurately note is unusual but which is grammatical in this usage, calls attention to the specific connotation that all options are bad and this, though also bad, is nonetheless the most potentially serviceable of the lot.
542354234235 · 2h ago
We all know that language contains a lot of subtleties, but it is always interesting when someone breaks down exactly how those are used in some interesting prose.
And the prose itself is good too.
throwanem · 2h ago
I've been an eager student of grammatical nuance in English since my introduction to the written language at age two. I'm always happy to take apart an example of same and show its workings!
andyjohnson0 · 4h ago
I read "least impractical" as meaning "least worst" -- the best bad option.
mattclarkdotnet · 5h ago
Yeah, the thrust of the story is that it was the worst of all options
Previous discussion: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=38135979
https://ad-publications.informatik.uni-freiburg.de/GIS_paths...
Never happens on the Apple Maps, although I have 0 trust in siri and apple maps, especially when we travel to europe, i feel like i'm an experiment for apple to see how much off straight forward route it can make me take.
Map makers make mistakes on purpose. This way they know when someone copies their maps. They look for these little tiny "mistakes".
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WEDU2I9fp_8
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The missile knows where it is at all times. It knows this because it knows where it isn't. By subtracting where it is from where it isn't, or where it isn't from where it is (whichever is greater), it obtains a difference, or deviation. The guidance subsystem uses deviations to generate corrective commands to drive the missile from a position where it is to a position where it isn't, and arriving at a position where it wasn't, it now is. Consequently, the position where it is, is now the position that it wasn't, and it follows that the position that it was, is now the position that it isn't.
In the event that the position that it is in is not the position that it wasn't, the system has acquired a variation, the variation being the difference between where the missile is, and where it wasn't. If variation is considered to be a significant factor, it too may be corrected by the GEA. However, the missile must also know where it was. The missile guidance computer scenario works as follows. Because a variation has modified some of the information the missile has obtained, it is not sure just where it is. However, it is sure where it isn't, within reason, and it knows where it was. It now subtracts where it should be from where it wasn't, or vice-versa, and by differentiating this from the algebraic sum of where it shouldn't be, and where it was, it is able to obtain the deviation and its variation, which is called error.
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chef kiss
[1] And this is from memory and a bunch of googling around hasn’t turned it up so pardon me if I get some details wrong.
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/people/obituary-capt-will...
Worth the read.
And for HN in particular, there is an ancestral link from the suffering crew of the ill-fated ship to the category of jobs that we have today.
I won't spoil it. But here is a clue: A.L.
He won’t. And those that went along with him will be judged poorly by it.
"least impractical"?
Unintentional double negative, I think?
Currently it conveys the meaning of being "most practical" whereas it was the opposite.
And the prose itself is good too.