A really smart fridge would remember what you put in it and remind you to eat that avocado before it goes bad. Or tell you maybe skip buying the salad, 80% of the salad you bought have spoiled languished in the fridge and ended up in the trash. Or it can suggest recipes from its contents plus what the crowdsourced data shows someone of your profile likes.
But nah, smart means it can show ads...
grues-dinner · 28m ago
Pretty much every day Amazon advertises a film to me that I watched on the same platform's account a couple of weeks ago. Presumably it also knows enough to determine that the account isn't shared so it's not advertising to other family members or something.
For all the billions spent on ad targeting, it's pretty coarse.
eth0up · 24m ago
The concept of smart tools and appliances has always been nightmarish to me. I don't want a smart wrench, stove, toilet or drill. The intelligence should be in the handler of these items, and the design itself.
I know things can be designed and programmed to do amazing things, some of them admirable. I don't need any of them. I just wonder if there will always be a choice. When I need a computer, I'll use a computer. I don't ever want to read the news on my spatula, or edit a video with my toaster.
This shit should be beaten, severely, back whence it came.
holtkam2 · 1h ago
Sounds like this is a great opportunity for competition to enter the market with a fridge that offers the same features, without being online. Its online-required features are all things that it should be able to do offline anyway.
> Another option is to disconnect the fridge from the Internet. Again, though, this would eliminate some core capabilities, like its meal planner, recipes, and shopping list features
…all things that on-device LLMs can already do, for example my MacBook can run Llama 4 (albeit slowly) and it can generate recipes for me.
Samsung will either need to shape up or competitors will enter the market to offer equally fancy but non-annoying fridges. I hope.
pavel_lishin · 1h ago
> …all things that on-device LLMs can already do, for example my MacBook can run Llama 4 (albeit slowly) and it can generate recipes for me.
I've run a local LLM, and while I probably didn't do a great job optimizing things, it was crawling. I would absolutely not stand there for 20 minutes while my fridge stutters out a recipe for kotleti, while probably getting some of it wrong and requiring a re-prompt.
Not everything needs to be a genie.
holtkam2 · 13m ago
I guess I was thinking about a smart fridge of the type you’d find in the year, say, 2031.
Can I just... not connect my fridge to the internet?
What timeline am I living in?
grues-dinner · 21m ago
This is just God's way of telling you that a screen on a fridge is still a stupid idea.
If you really, really need to have your fridge manage your sell by dates somehow or give you recipes based on what it thinks it has in it (and hopefully the cupboards have the other items) or whatever the tech-brained-fuck you think it'd will do for you, the communications tool in your hand highly optimised for manual input and with a web browser that's not embedded shitware seems a sensible interface.
liquid_thyme · 2h ago
Why pay for advertising, when you can show your ads on your own devices for free? Heh..
rolph · 2h ago
you can always filter them, but if it ever became transactional, that would be problematic
But nah, smart means it can show ads...
For all the billions spent on ad targeting, it's pretty coarse.
I know things can be designed and programmed to do amazing things, some of them admirable. I don't need any of them. I just wonder if there will always be a choice. When I need a computer, I'll use a computer. I don't ever want to read the news on my spatula, or edit a video with my toaster.
This shit should be beaten, severely, back whence it came.
> Another option is to disconnect the fridge from the Internet. Again, though, this would eliminate some core capabilities, like its meal planner, recipes, and shopping list features
…all things that on-device LLMs can already do, for example my MacBook can run Llama 4 (albeit slowly) and it can generate recipes for me.
Samsung will either need to shape up or competitors will enter the market to offer equally fancy but non-annoying fridges. I hope.
I've run a local LLM, and while I probably didn't do a great job optimizing things, it was crawling. I would absolutely not stand there for 20 minutes while my fridge stutters out a recipe for kotleti, while probably getting some of it wrong and requiring a re-prompt.
Not everything needs to be a genie.
Samsung confirms its smart fridges will start showing you ads (68 points, 2 hours ago, 52 comments) https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45291107
Samsung smart fridge displaying advertisements (32 points, 2 days ago, 21 comments) https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45262808
What timeline am I living in?
If you really, really need to have your fridge manage your sell by dates somehow or give you recipes based on what it thinks it has in it (and hopefully the cupboards have the other items) or whatever the tech-brained-fuck you think it'd will do for you, the communications tool in your hand highly optimised for manual input and with a web browser that's not embedded shitware seems a sensible interface.