Goodbye, Six-Figure Tech Jobs. Young Coders Seek Work at Fast-Food Joints

28 Physkal 10 8/10/2025, 10:41:05 AM nytimes.com ↗

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trenchpilgrim · 37m ago
> “The unfortunate thing right now, specifically for recent college grads, is those positions that are most likely to be automated are the entry-level positions that they would be seeking,” said Matthew Martin, U.S. senior economist at Oxford Economics, a forecasting firm.

This matches my experience. About 90% of the coding tasks I would have assigned to a junior in years past, I can get done for a fraction of the price at a similar quality and in 1/3rd the time by a tool like Claude Code. The only reason I have to hire a junior would be to develop them into a senior over 3-5 years, and companies are far too shortsided to think about that training pipeline.

A good senior engineer still does things the tools can't- in particular, non-programming tasks like planning, persuading, and accountability. I fear that there will be a crisis in these skills as the current seniors retire/change industries in the coming years.

pityJuke · 3h ago
I dread to think what my opportunities would have looked like had I entered the industry even 1 year later.

All the sympathies to these people.

jdhn · 2h ago
They should have talked with UX professionals. The situation is just as, if not more dire in the UX community.
the_real_cher · 2h ago
I hate when 'the media' blames offshoring and outsourcing on A.I.

Microsoft just laid off thousands and yet are still hiring thousands of H1Bs.

Just one example.

The majority of Adobes jobs on their career page are for foreign workers.

A.I. is misdirection

ProllyInfamous · 24m ago
>laid off thousands and yet are still hiring thousands of H1Bs

http://www.h1bdata.info

It shocked me to learn my midsized Southern city (<0.5M MSA) has 1762 H1B jobs, ostensibly because there aren't any qualified Americans; the most common complaint I hear from my peers is that "there aren't enough tech jobs here" when the reality is over 1% of our workforce is underpaid H1Bs, primarily tech field.

I don't think its hateful to want your healthy society's workforce to be made up of citizens, whatever those criteria be determined.

>A.I. is misdirection

It is playing a most useful role for idiots.

fakedang · 1h ago
And somehow morons downvote you for speaking the truth.

My friends in India are all doing swimmingly well with the extremely huge increase in offshoring jobs to India. While in the 2000s it was tech support and in the 2010s it was auxiliary tech workers, today it's actual engineers, UX designers, product guys, even HR and admin functions. Turns out, everything can be sent off to India and LatAm, except for sales and department heads. While previously companies would hire right away from IITs to ship them to the US, today they're content with keeping them in India and letting them work remotely.

The impact of AI in corporate jobs is actually very minimal, but the use of it as a smokescreen for downsizing is uncountable.

gregorygoc · 1h ago
Good old “the capital has no nationality”. Yeah, sure. Offshore everything, keep a bunch of stooges as “head of the heads” in the U.S. and one day wake up with entire know how transferred to wherevere-was-cheaper-at-the-time.
add-sub-mul-div · 1h ago
"Let the bears pay the bear tax. I pay the Homer tax!"
xtajv · 1h ago
I dream that LLMs will be the disaster that finally convinces the software engineering field that code isn't so "soft" after all, and that software engineering should be licensed, bonded, and insured.

Every single other engineering field has gone through it. "Regulations are written in blood".

gregorygoc · 1h ago
Blood has been spilled. 737 MAX happened and it didn’t change the industry, so nothing will.