The Victorians, Creation, and the Dinosaur Problem

5 samclemens 2 5/26/2025, 3:56:04 AM historytoday.com ↗

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ggm · 2d ago
You can still see the concrete dinosaurs in Crystal Palace Park, moved from Hyde park where they featured in the Great Exhibition of 1854 (which in turn led to the museums complex in South Kensington)

Due to mistaken identification of a claw as a horn, one of the models features rhino like features, when it's actually part of the clawed front foot. One of the moulds was used for a dining philosophers gathering before the exhibition. Cast Cement was a novel(ish) material. "coade stone" was used by prince albert decorating his design for osborne house he and victoria shared on the isle of wight. -Using it to cast these models was probably a shrewd move given the prince's interest in the great exhibition.

Acceptance of the realities of deep time from geology underpins the emergence of the modern british scientific movement. It was discussed at great length as a 'religion vs science' debate in the british scientific societies. Prior discoveries by antiquarians of bog bones, fossils begged questions which came to a head. Once you accept that geology reflects time beyond the trivial, and that folding and continuity of layers can be tracked and understood, and that mammon: the coal and metals mining industry is obviously funding and accepting this scientific truth, demanding that the same coal and metal barons fund a church which is diametrically opposed to a belief in time before 4004BC, is unwise.

The church caved.

Thomas Huxley, who led the fight in the press, was the grandfather of Aldous Huxley, of "brave new world" fame.

bediger4000 · 2d ago
Paywalled after the first few paragraphs, but as far as they go, modern day creationists have essentially the same problem with geology, and the same sort of problem with genetics, and the same problem with astronomy. And a combination problem, in that all the lines of evidence reinforce the hypothesis that there was not seven days of creation.