Isn't it a conflict of interest to be overseeing the part of the government enforcing environmental laws and also own this operation?
rsynnott · 6h ago
... I mean pretty much everything the guy does is a conflict of interest, what's one more?
panny · 8h ago
>methane gas turbines
>nitrogen oxides
Can someone explain to me how those produce nitrogen oxide? High school chem taught me CH4 + 2-O2 -> CO2 + 2-H2O... where's the nitrogen oxide?
bigbadfeline · 4h ago
You wrote the formula incorrectly, the proper left side of it is:
CH4 + 2 O2 + 8 N2 /* there are 4 N2 molecules for each O2 molecule in air */
Or do you think someone is feeding pure oxygen to the turbine?
taylodl · 8h ago
The turbine produces high temperatures which then causes reactions with the nitrogen that's present in the atmosphere. There's also nitrogen present in the fuel. It's not 100% pure methane.
panny · 7h ago
>There's also nitrogen present in the fuel. It's not 100% pure methane.
That seems like the actual problem.
Zigurd · 2h ago
There's vastly more nitrogen in air than in methane. The ratio of air to methane
in a gas turbine is also high, over 15:1.
westurner · 7h ago
Does AGR Acidic Gas Reduction work with methane turbines?
Shouldn't all methane-powered equipment have this AGR (or similar) new emission reduction technology?
> ORNL’s award-winning ultraclean condensing high-efficiency natural gas furnace features an affordable add-on technology that can remove more than 99.9% of acidic gases and other emissions. The technology can also be added to other natural gas-driven equipment.
FWIU basically no generators have catalytic converters, because that requires computer controlled fuel ignition.
...
FWIU, in data centers,
"100% Green" means "100% offset by PPAs" (power-purchase agreement); so "200% green" could mean "100% directly-sourced clean energy".
Should they pack up and pay out and start over elsewhere with enough clean energy, [ or should force methane generators to comply? ]
ec109685 · 6h ago
It sounds like that's what they're adding for their permanent generators. Unfortunate that their portable "temporary" generators weren't equipped with this technology.
westurner · 4h ago
Though it's not a methane leak, in their case the problem is the poisonous byproducts of combustion FWIU;
We invested tax dollars in NASA space-based methane leak imaging, because methane is a potent greenhouse gas.
Is this another casualty of their distracting, wasteful, and saboteurial hit on NASA Earth Science funding?
srameshc · 6h ago
> Elon Musk’s artificial intelligence company is belching smog-forming pollution into an area of South Memphis that already leads the state in emergency department visits for asthma.
I have been to that place and sadly a lot of industrial pollutants in that area. This would make it even worse and the resdients probably won't be able to do anything about it.
>nitrogen oxides
Can someone explain to me how those produce nitrogen oxide? High school chem taught me CH4 + 2-O2 -> CO2 + 2-H2O... where's the nitrogen oxide?
CH4 + 2 O2 + 8 N2 /* there are 4 N2 molecules for each O2 molecule in air */
Or do you think someone is feeding pure oxygen to the turbine?
That seems like the actual problem.
Shouldn't all methane-powered equipment have this AGR (or similar) new emission reduction technology?
From https://www.ornl.gov/news/add-device-makes-home-furnaces-cle... :
> ORNL’s award-winning ultraclean condensing high-efficiency natural gas furnace features an affordable add-on technology that can remove more than 99.9% of acidic gases and other emissions. The technology can also be added to other natural gas-driven equipment.
FWIU basically no generators have catalytic converters, because that requires computer controlled fuel ignition.
...
FWIU, in data centers, "100% Green" means "100% offset by PPAs" (power-purchase agreement); so "200% green" could mean "100% directly-sourced clean energy".
Should they pack up and pay out and start over elsewhere with enough clean energy, [ or should force methane generators to comply? ]
Looks like methane.jpl.nasa.gov isn't up anymore? https://methane.jpl.nasa.gov/
We invested tax dollars in NASA space-based methane leak imaging, because methane is a potent greenhouse gas.
Is this another casualty of their distracting, wasteful, and saboteurial hit on NASA Earth Science funding?
I have been to that place and sadly a lot of industrial pollutants in that area. This would make it even worse and the resdients probably won't be able to do anything about it.