Trump Administration Reverses Course on Student Visa Cancellations

19 whack 7 4/25/2025, 7:34:22 PM nytimes.com ↗

Comments (7)

jqpabc123 · 5d ago
Government by decree --- the epitome of fascism --- and by trial and error. Mostly error.
gsf_emergency · 5d ago
And China's authoritarian governance would be mostly by trial ? :)

Snark aside, I am trying to engage in good faith to your comment here: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43794764

Credible reports on the ground say that patent litigation in China (at least in some core cities) are now more efficient than in California.

So far, it's not so easy to see if China has indeed been successfully apeing California, just like Mr. Thiel hoped.

jqpabc123 · 5d ago
Patent litigation in China is mostly just a ruse designed for Western consumption. Any awards are limited by law to paltry amounts.

If China really wanted American style patent dysfunction, they would be mimicking courts in Texas, not CA.

https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2015/08/why-patent-troll...

gsf_emergency · 3d ago
No, I get what you're saying

Secrets and moats were supposed to be for internal morale..

I was hoping you'd argue that China has maintained a healthy industrial society-level morale purely with material advantage (like US in 1940s?)

jqpabc123 · 3d ago
Secrets and moats were supposed to be for internal morale.

Secrets and moats are mainly for entrenched internal interests at the expense of upstarts.

These promote in-fighting --- they don't really work toward global competitiveness --- unless you can convince others to be like US and handicap themselves too.

For the most part, China avoids playing this game. And unless we've got some better response than "tariffs", they're going to own world markets.

Make America poorer, dumber and less relevant --- this is where we are headed now.

gsf_emergency · 3d ago
(fwiw I see the appeal of being pessimistic, and not even calling it, pace Orwell, optimism :)

Just trying to figure out the positive psychology of sharing*, how to reconcile that with the general idea of markets .. don't mind me.

(& maybe put a positive spin on autism?)

*there is something narcotic/creepy about the "abundance" mindset, which I haven't got a toehold on yet. It's like a Schelling point for people across the (political) spectrum who can't help but preemptively rationalize what their opponents would reflexively label fascism (or authoritarianism when they want to include China in the argument)

Sorry to be vague, there's not a lot of legible data out there

I'm much more sympathetic towards the strategy of definancialization/detertiarization-- with which Stiglitz has inadvertently steelman'd tariffs

(The idea that UK has been totally f**ked by tertiarization is mainstream, & the weather in California/Florida/Texas is not necessarily helping either :) to your point, maybe, Japan & Germany** have equally unhealthy attitudes towards intellectual entrenchment, that's why their bonds are so attractive :))

https://youtu.be/vAwBDzGxpi8&t=1m1s

** also Asian ex-tigers https://hajoonchang.net/economists-who-have-influenced-me#:~...

nofalsescotsman · 5d ago
That's great news, hopefully it doesn't get reversed again in a few days. What an absolute clown show of a government. If we can claw our way out of this fascism there needs to be a real reckoning. Truth and goodness can not flourish without justice.