Am I the only one here who is skeptical that the MRNA shots have a positive risk-reward tradeoff for healthy people?
My job is to rush out complicated things, and biology is much more complex than even hardware. I know how fallible experts are. I know what hysteria and pressure driven deadlines do to build quality. And I know that you can't really test long term effects of biological products without long term human trials.
I think everyone here knows these things too, but most have a tribal political reaction to trust these shots because you dislike the people questioning them.
rkomorn · 5m ago
mRNA vaccine research has been going on for decades. It's not something new and rushed.
prepend · 1h ago
I didn’t know what other countries recommended for the Covid vaccination so I asked perplexity what the other g10 countries do for their policy.
It seems like all g10 nations have risk-based recommendations and none for everyone in the general population.
I find it hard to get clear reporting on this to differentiate what’s uniquely “against the science” vs just the US changing to match the rest of the world.
stop50 · 1h ago
For Germany there is a General Recommendation by the Stiko(Standing Comitee on Vaccination).
there is an PDF that sums it up: https://www.rki.de/EN/Topics/Infectious-diseases/Immunisatio... on Page 7.
These Vaccinations are also covered by the Insurances.
hdhs7471 · 31m ago
> I asked perplexity
I’d stopped using it because its answers usually didn’t help, but I’ve not used Perplexity Pro recently. Is its main value just finding surface level info on websites quickly? Do you also use google.com/ai or similar as a fallback often or does it do a good enough job?
Do keep in mind that folks at the CDC have gone full malicious compliance mode when it comes to the COVID vaccine. The list of exceptions covers essentially everyone and locations administering the vaccine, CVS and the like, just ask "are you eligible for the vaccine Y/n?" with no follow up. So do get your COVID booster when you get your annual flu shot. The restrictions are an optics "victory" while not really changing anything.
add-sub-mul-div · 1h ago
This has been confusing because if it's a grift, the playbook is to keep an equilibrium where the "threat" never gets solved, because its usefulness is its existence.
And if it's not a grift to him, if he's a true believer/victim of it, the people running the grift don't usually let those people all the way to the top to upset the equilibrium.
It's like we're a decade into watching the dog who caught the car.
My job is to rush out complicated things, and biology is much more complex than even hardware. I know how fallible experts are. I know what hysteria and pressure driven deadlines do to build quality. And I know that you can't really test long term effects of biological products without long term human trials.
I think everyone here knows these things too, but most have a tribal political reaction to trust these shots because you dislike the people questioning them.
It seems like all g10 nations have risk-based recommendations and none for everyone in the general population.
I find it hard to get clear reporting on this to differentiate what’s uniquely “against the science” vs just the US changing to match the rest of the world.
I’d stopped using it because its answers usually didn’t help, but I’ve not used Perplexity Pro recently. Is its main value just finding surface level info on websites quickly? Do you also use google.com/ai or similar as a fallback often or does it do a good enough job?
And if it's not a grift to him, if he's a true believer/victim of it, the people running the grift don't usually let those people all the way to the top to upset the equilibrium.
It's like we're a decade into watching the dog who caught the car.