Rick Beato is right to rant about music copyright strikes

45 breve 21 8/31/2025, 5:35:59 AM savingcountrymusic.com ↗

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rsp1984 · 2m ago
It gets even crazier when compared to other IP law:

Engineer makes an invention: Write 30-Page patent application. Multi-year patenting process with USPTO, pay 1000s of $ if DIY, 10x that if using an IP law firm. Multiply by 4x if going international. With luck, patent gets issued 3 years later. It protects you for 25 years, but only if you have deep pockets for an IP lawsuit in case someone does copy you -- and with uncertain outcome.

Artist releases a song: automatically enjoys 100+ years of protection, even for minor samples, hooks, melodic elements. Lawsuits are easily won as long as you can prove you are the copyright holder.

I have my theories about how we ended up in this state of affairs but no jurist with a sliver of common sense can seriously claim that this is fine.

jimnotgym · 11m ago
I watched Beato's video. I couldn't help thinking that making hundreds of false claims was harassment? Any lawyers around?
Veserv · 49m ago
The most ridiculous part of music copyrights is that the DMCA explicitly encodes statutory damages of at least 750$ up to 30,000$, and up to 150,000$ for willful infringement per work [1].

Yet musical compositions are subject to compulsory mechanical copyright licenses at a fixed rate of 12.4 cents or 2.38 cents per minute, whichever is higher [2] for music covers [3] (i.e. same song, different singer/band or even same singer different time). Meaning you can make a cover without permission as long as you pay the copyright holder at the rates specified in the law.

So we already have cheap compulsory licensing for musical compositions which caps damages at a 1/6,000 to 1/240,000 of the DMCA rates. We should just have compulsory mechanical licensing for recordings as well.

If we really want to get crazy, we could even let copyright holders declare a compulsory licensing rate per work then multiply that by some number to get their intellectual property value and then charge them property tax on that intellectual property. So you can set a high compulsory licensing rate, but then you have to pay more property tax on your income generating property or vice versa. This allows valuable works to be protected to support the artists making them, while allowing less valuable works to be easily usable by whoever wants to.

[1] https://uwf.edu/go/legal-and-consumer-info/digital-millenium...

[2] https://copyright.gov/licensing/m200a.pdf

[3] https://www.copyright.gov/circs/circ73.pdf

atoav · 7m ago
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bambax · 1h ago
One answer to this madness is to starve the beast: never buy any music or any content from an established company. Torrent everything. It may not work at all, but at least you can tell yourself you're not helping the bastards.
rglullis · 57m ago
Few people are buying anything in this world where streaming is the norm and the labels make money by cutting deals with the distribution platforms.

The solution for me, in this specific case, would be for Beato to act against YouTube and take his channel elsewhere. He has enough followers to be able to start his own Peertube server, find a few sponsors and keep going forever.

motoxpro · 13m ago
Neither the GP or this comment are viable in the real world.

Businesses/creators need continued distribution, see Nike as an example of what happens when you "take your audience elsewhere to monetize them better/more."

1. People buy the other option (in Nike's case they kept going to footlocker and buying other shoes rather than only buying Nike DTC, in Beato's case they would continue to go to YouTube to discover new guitar content)

2. The business can't get new customers because no one is on the new platform (Nike DTC/Peertube)

It's viable for a split second (covid, "stick it to Youtube cause they suck") then people just go back to living their lives.

AlecSchueler · 6m ago
> in Beato's case they would continue to go to YouTube to discover new guitar content

He's in a unique market position though because he's got industry respect. Joe Bloggs in his bedroom can't compete with "guitar content" because Dave Gilmore, Pat Matheney and Glynn Johns aren't all going to sit with him for a 2 hour long interview.

atoav · 14m ago
There are many smaller bands that sell their stuff more or less directly, e.g. via bandcamp or directly via small independent record labels. Buy their stuff, it helps them to survive.

But mayor record labels can go die in a ditch.

dokyun · 1h ago
+1 for Soulseek
AlecSchueler · 4m ago
It's still better than things like Spotify.

I listen to a lot of traditional Irish music and love to do things like shuffling a playlist of all the same tune by different performers.

To do that on Spotify I need to search the tune name, then create a new playlist and manually add them all.

With my local files I can just grep, even the metadata, and pipe it into a playlist for mpv to play instantly.

talove · 1h ago
It’s all brinkmanship: if you can’t unilaterally control it, the instinct is to destroy it.

I work in tech, but thanks to some stubborn drive for creation my parents instilled in me, I also make music. And honestly, compared to music, even the advertising industry feels cutting-edge. Music is still operating with one foot stuck decades in the past.

ggm · 43m ago
I read a review by an IPR lawyer long ago who said since music performing rights encouraged artists to record more tunes, in 75 years we'd be drowning in free, and should pay now for the future benefit of growing the size of the free pool in perpetuity.

Not surprisingly the same review recommended extending copyright lifetimes not reducing them. Strange.

aquir · 56m ago
Pirate the music and if you want to support the artist to concerts/gigs and buy merch. These labels are inserted themselves between the fans and the artists w/o any benefit but for themselves.
prox · 1h ago
This is so true, the system is broken beyond belief. I want to write a rant here but let’s just say the article is right on all counts.

It’s obvious tech companies as always bowed to one party and listened to them, and didn’t incorporate the user in this. (And to the few that do : thank you)

alfiedotwtf · 37m ago
Starsky Carr did a filter sweep while reviewing a synthesizer, and with that got his account shutdown because it was auto-copyright strike. He appealed and luckily it was reversed, but I'm sure others with smaller audiences wouldn't be so lucky.
croes · 1h ago
Music compaines don't care if it hurts the artist. The have masses of licensed music and can afford the income damage caused by copyright strikes.
socalgal2 · 1h ago
I kinda feel like the solution is to stop promoting artist that sign with labels? Like the label doesn’t want you to use the music. the artist chose the label to protect their right's

also, it does seem a little whiny on Beato’s part. He’s not wrong that allowing the music on his channel is probably a net positive for the artist and the label but at the same time he’s benefiting from the music. if he wasn’t then he would be fine with removing it

rkachowski · 1h ago
The music in question would be the music of the artist he's interviewing at the time, the absurdity is that you can interview the creator but not show what they've created.
croes · 1h ago
The absurdity is that someone else then the creator can hold the copyright.

In Germany there is a distinction between the selling rights and the creator rights and a company can never be the creator nor can you sell the creator rights.

bigyabai · 1h ago
If the creator gave up their copyright then it's not absurd, it's law. This is why it's important for budding artists to keep their masters.
bambax · 1h ago
> if he wasn’t then he would be fine with removing it

Mmm... what? He talks about music. It would be hard to do lectures about paintings, or architecture, without showing anything. How can he demonstrate what he's talking about if he can't play even a very short excerpt of the piece he's commenting?