Step 3, upon not hearing of compliance, levy fines.
Step 4, upon non payment of fines, declare in breach of (2).
Step 5, block site from UK using DNS, in the same manner as torrent sites etc.
5 was always the goal, 2 to 4 are largely just performative.
fruitworks · 7m ago
Step 6: Someome buys (or steals) a new domain to mirror the site. Or piggybacks a subdomain.
Step 7: Rinse and repeat, fueling the domain-bureaucracy complex. Oceania has always been at war with the pirate bay!
username332211 · 6m ago
How does step 5 work? Switching DNS servers is trivial.
postexitus · 5m ago
For you - not for 99% of the public.
FergusArgyll · 13m ago
He has erected a multitude of New Offices, and sent hither swarms of Officers to harrass our people, and eat out their substance.
net01 · 2h ago
Ofcom can fine 4chan all it wants, but without UK assets those penalties are unenforceable, they have no power here.
This is why the US dropped tea into Boston to have it's own Freedom.
blibble · 1h ago
> This is why the US dropped tea into Boston to have it's own Freedom.
the 3% tariff on Chinese tea was seen as oppressive
don't look at what has been imposed this year (without congressional approval)
zdragnar · 41m ago
The tariff was oppressive in large part because the colonies didn't have representation in Parliament and were allowed limited (and decreasing) local governance. The Stamp, Townshend and Intolerable Acts were a whole lot more than just "we don't wanna pay taxes".
A similar argument can be made against the tariffs though.
US consumers will be paying the bulk of the tariffs through price increases. We do have representatives in Congress, they just weren't the ones imposing tariffs.
doka_smoka · 20m ago
I don't feel represented on the national or international stage AT ALL. Maybe I'll stop paying mine.
aleph_minus_one · 12m ago
> I don't feel represented on the national or international stage AT ALL. Maybe I'll stop paying mine.
Now gather a huge group of friends who are willing to fight for this cause (and who whose this cause is so important that they can accept ending in jail or even worse).
FergusArgyll · 26m ago
The target of the Boston Tea Party was the British implementation of the Tea Act of May 10, 1773, which allowed the East India Company to sell tea from China in the colonies without paying taxes apart from those imposed by the Townshend Acts.
The precipitating event behind the Boston Tea Party was actually a reduction in taxation that made it possible for the East India Company to undercut both official colonial tea importers and also American tea smugglers.
nickslaughter02 · 2h ago
> Two days later, US Federal Trade Commission chairman Andrew Ferguson warned big tech firms they could be violating US law if they weakened privacy and data security requirements by complying with international laws such as the Online Safety Act.
How will this work with chat control?
> "If Ofcom doesn't think this will be enough to prevent significant harm, it can even ask that ISPs be ordered to block UK access."
If you want to enforce stupid laws the burden should be upon you.
net01 · 1h ago
> How will this work with chat control?
There is no POC for a chat control E2E-compliant chat app and there will never be. this will just kill EU made software because they will be forced to comply, while US software will use real E2E as marketing.
pitched · 28m ago
The UK isn’t part of the EU anymore. As I understand it, this doesn’t apply to the broader group.
sunshine-o · 2h ago
I assumed 4chan didn't exist anymore and it was renamed/replaced by another board... Great advertisement.
The UK acts like a madman on fire trying to attack everybody.
bentlegen · 8m ago
It stopped being relevant because its content became acceptable on major social networks, beginning in late 2022.
idiomat9000 · 54m ago
Desperate politicians ,steering desperately against the right wing tide they created by showing everyone the reality of mass immigration to keep their business models and world afloat .
none_to_remain · 50m ago
The matter was settled in 1783
macinjosh · 27m ago
Ofcom's only card now is to have UK ISPs block 4chan. When that happens will Starlink comply? maybe. what if they block X? could get messy fast.
perihelions · 20m ago
I'd be totally un-shocked if the UK criminalized Starlink (over OSA or otherwise), in part because they've already criminalized it before, in some of their territories[0,1].
Imagine if some tech like DNS over UHF radio
What could the UK do?
justlikereddit · 3m ago
They'll just maintain course on their mission to make everything illegal no matter the technical details.
Starting with whatever allows criticism of their parody of a farce of so called leadership.
aleph_minus_one · 16m ago
> Imagine if some tech like DNS over UHF radio What could the UK do?
Criminalize this usage of UHF radio.
jmclnx · 1h ago
>If Ofcom doesn't think this will be enough to prevent significant harm, it can even ask that ISPs be ordered to block UK access.
Well again I guess the UK never heard of VPNs, but they are trying to ban them still, it is like these pols have no clue how the internet works. They never learn these actions are like playing wack-a-mole.
So they're lagging about 3-4 years behind the Russian practices, but steadily catching up. Quite impressive!
Klaster_1 · 15m ago
It doesn't matter if naive blocking means can be trivially circumvented. This creates a chilling effect, less technically proficient people will just move to other sites. When circumvention becomes an offence, now government has one more point of leverage over you - they manufacture law under which almost everyone is guilty.
Joker_vD · 32m ago
> I guess the UK never heard of VPNs
Wanna bet that when they finally hear of them, they'll try to ban them (and mentions of VPNs, too)?
pitched · 40m ago
It feels more like a modern version of Luddites where they probably do understand very well how it works and they fear what that means for their own success.
Finnucane · 30m ago
so I guess the UK will have to build Hadrian’s Firewall to keep everybody out.
Step 2, demand compliance.
Step 3, upon not hearing of compliance, levy fines.
Step 4, upon non payment of fines, declare in breach of (2).
Step 5, block site from UK using DNS, in the same manner as torrent sites etc.
5 was always the goal, 2 to 4 are largely just performative.
Step 7: Rinse and repeat, fueling the domain-bureaucracy complex. Oceania has always been at war with the pirate bay!
This is why the US dropped tea into Boston to have it's own Freedom.
the 3% tariff on Chinese tea was seen as oppressive
don't look at what has been imposed this year (without congressional approval)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virtual_representation
US consumers will be paying the bulk of the tariffs through price increases. We do have representatives in Congress, they just weren't the ones imposing tariffs.
Now gather a huge group of friends who are willing to fight for this cause (and who whose this cause is so important that they can accept ending in jail or even worse).
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boston_Tea_Party
How will this work with chat control?
> "If Ofcom doesn't think this will be enough to prevent significant harm, it can even ask that ISPs be ordered to block UK access."
If you want to enforce stupid laws the burden should be upon you.
The UK acts like a madman on fire trying to attack everybody.
[0] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42979869 ("Starlink in the Falkland Islands – A national emergency situation? (openfalklands.com)"—225 comments)
[1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=37645945 ("Saint Helena Island Communications (sainthelenaisland.info)"—145 comments)
Starting with whatever allows criticism of their parody of a farce of so called leadership.
Criminalize this usage of UHF radio.
Well again I guess the UK never heard of VPNs, but they are trying to ban them still, it is like these pols have no clue how the internet works. They never learn these actions are like playing wack-a-mole.
Wanna bet that when they finally hear of them, they'll try to ban them (and mentions of VPNs, too)?