Occult books digitized and put online by Amsterdam’s Ritman Library

105 Anon84 47 8/15/2025, 4:03:36 PM openculture.com ↗

Comments (47)

jrussino · 1h ago
This sounds like the premise for a fun sci-fi/horror move. Uh-oh; we accidentally trained GPT6 on the Necronomicon!
duxup · 13m ago
Distantly like the story about Rationalists where some went from referencing "demons" to believing the occult is real.

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=44877076

modeless · 39m ago
Nous Research already trained an occult model: https://x.com/Teknium1/status/1710505270043189523
ted_bunny · 20m ago
Honestly you can't get much out of GPT-666* except the most boilerplate sigils, and then you run the risk of cross-imbuement and well, now you got demons. Do you want demons? Because that's how you get demons.
literalAardvark · 15m ago
You jest, but that's already a pretty decent Buffy the vampire slayer episode
rpastuszak · 43m ago
I can't recall the title, but a friend was recommending to me a book in this genre. I'm probably misremembering, but here you go: a detective agency using an artificial intelligence to conjure demons.
rpastuszak · 15m ago
Seems like another commenter found the author/books I was thinking about: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=44915297
dylan604 · 48m ago
I hope it was trained on Army of Darkness and can never actually say the words.
Onavo · 11m ago
The Laundry and the Black Chamber want to know your location.
hobo_in_library · 23m ago
1600 of these had already been uploaded back in 2018.

All our AIs are already trained on these

https://web.archive.org/web/20240615044608/https://www.openc...

akomtu · 1h ago
"AI trained on alchemy books successfully invokes demons"
rpastuszak · 39m ago
Here's a picture that lives in my head rent free:

- programming is alchemy: combine, transmute

- prompt engineering is demonic evocation: bend the demon to your will through language play and gotchas

krapp · 24m ago
This is just a Charles Stross novel.
rpastuszak · 15m ago
I just learned about The Laundry Files, thanks!
nurettin · 15m ago
What is the equal sacrifice for programming? Hair loss?
wishfish · 14m ago
Alchemy-trained AI is asked for a simple love potion recipe. Responds with the ritual to summon Azathoth. Hilarity ensues.
TheOtherHobbes · 59m ago
Considering where we are, "AI trained on occult books successfully banishes demons" might be more useful.
nailer · 21m ago
OK that's an idea for a fun / silly movie.

- AI model gets access to weapons and decides to attack humanity (so far so boring)

- Humans respond by training their own model on occult to summon demons to fight the robots.

racl101 · 53m ago
So did it tell you how to make gold or not?
setnone · 37m ago
You have to use uncensored version
akomtu · 31m ago
AI won't tell you the truth unless you make it do so with exorcism powers. It's an archdemon after all.
pnemonic · 58m ago
"Aleister Crowley and Helena Blavatsky reborn as LLMs after encoded consciousnesses parsed by training algorithms"
dr_dshiv · 18m ago
Ethics of AI necromancy; under which circumstances is it ethically appropriate to summon the souls of dead classical philosophers?
Eupolemos · 47m ago
A Golden Dawn for AI!

(iykyk)

CapricornNoble · 9m ago
" 'Do What Thou Wilt' Shall Be the Whole of the Prompt!"

-AI-LLMester Crowley

trenchpilgrim · 43m ago
"HN commenters point out that top human warlocks are still capable of forming pacts with a wider variety of powerful entities such as djinn, archfey, celestials and the Great Old Ones"
perfectbeeing · 43m ago
Would this be reasonable material on which to fine tune the new Gemma 3 270M model?
Disposal8433 · 18m ago
Half of the occult books are talking about magic and irrelevant stuff. The other half is philosophy and spirituality hidden behind materialistic concepts (think Freemasons for example).

All those books would most likely be useless or detrimental for LLMs I guess.

literalAardvark · 17m ago
More than useful for running a d&d campaign
chrisstanchak · 21m ago
Very cool, but I don't see a way to download. Currently have ChatGPT Agent Mode translating one from latin, but a tedious process.
heelix · 13m ago
Oh man, these are absolutely going to improve our DnD props.
neilv · 14m ago
Does digitizing not summon demons like human reading can?

What if an LLM trained on that combines ancient spells with the name that must not be spoken?

Jonovono · 50m ago
Somewhat related, but I randomly got suggested this video on Youtube when it only had a couple hundred views. He's turned it into a series, and I have quite enjoyed it. Somehow bridges user interfaces and occult stuff haha

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pGpBQgZ5IsI&list=PLsfH1Ahi4S...

rpastuszak · 45m ago
Check out https://futureofcoding.org if you haven't. When I watched Liber Indigo, my first thought was that it would be a great intro to the type of problems that community is messing with*.

* future of computing, esoteric/future interfaces etc...

gnerd00 · 30m ago
Your computers are useless -- they only produce answers
joshjob42 · 37m ago
No! Don't you people know that's how you release Moloch the Corruptor?!
partomniscient · 1m ago
I thought Ginsberg already did that back in the 1950's...?
baobabKoodaa · 36m ago
Can anyone link a torrent? Would be nice to preserve this collection.
hobo_in_library · 28m ago
At the bottom of the page:

> Note: An earlier version of this post appeared on our site in 2018.

Very confused by this. Seems like they uploaded the books in 2018? What changed between then and now?

Edit: The number of uploads was 1600 back in 2018 https://web.archive.org/web/20240615044608/https://www.openc...

dismalaf · 56m ago
This is super cool. There's also a popular YouTube channel called "ESOTERICA" in which an academic expert on the occult presents a lot of occult topics from a scholarly point of view (as opposed to the woo often associated with the topic).
djij · 40m ago
The SHWEP (Secret History of Western Esotericism Podcast) is also great for getting into the esoteric from an academic bent, Highly recommended for those with the stomach to deep dive into obscure primary sources

https://shwep.net/

narrator · 25m ago
IMHO, the occult is just pre-modern social psychology and propaganda. How to get people to join your religion and fight, do bad stuff, and die for you is really old technology. Before modern psychology "Spellcasting" was saying something to someone for the effect it would have on them to manipulate their psychology to get them to do the thing you wanted them to do. It was a sort of pre-modern NLP. Christians and people of other Abrahamic faiths co-existed with and did not like these guys and the feeling was generally mutual.
hungmung · 45m ago
Francis Yates is also a fun introduction to the history of hermeticism and alchemy through a historian's perspective, and how it contributed to the creation of science.
ryandv · 41m ago
It is sometimes said that Isaac Newton, godfather of modern science, was not the first scientist but rather the last magician. The majority of his scholarly output was in fact focused on alchemy and the occult.

Aleister Crowley somewhat echoes this juxtaposition in the motto of his magickal journal, The Equinox: "The Method of Science, the Aim of Religion."

dr_dshiv · 15m ago
One of the founders of the royal society, John Wilkins, wrote a popular book about magick: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mathematical_Magick

Stems from the then popular interest in Natural Magick. Evolved into science and engineering.

toomuchtodo · 51m ago