Your source has “the dog and the shadow” (which subsequently uses “sha-dow”) and “the oxen and the butchers” (and note that “oxen” is not hyphenated). The Gutenberg edition instead has “the child and the brook” in their stead, and “the bear in the wood” inserted after the next one.
scandox · 4h ago
No but it might help a younger reader and it avoids an absurd consistency
pinko · 3h ago
I don't disagree, but I still think it's funny that, not six pages in, they compromise the central conceit...
esafak · 2h ago
This is a good idea. I am working through the 1912 translation of this by V. S. Vernon Jones with my child, and I was taken aback by how dense its Victorian English is. This is the translation that is currently distributed by Simon & Schuster. Consider THE GOODS AND THE ILLS:
"There was a time in the youth of the world when Goods and Ills entered equally into the concerns of men, so that the Goods did not prevail to make them altogether blessed, nor the Ills to make them wholly miserable. But owing to the foolishness of mankind the Ills multiplied greatly in number and increased in strength, until it seemed as though they would deprive the Goods of all share in human affairs, and banish them from the earth. The latter, therefore, betook themselves to heaven and complained to Jupiter of the treatment they had received, at the same time praying him to grant them protection from the Ills, and to advise them concerning the manner of their intercourse with men. Jupiter granted their request for protection, and decreed that for the future they should not go among men openly in a body, and so be liable to attack from the hostile Ills, but singly and unobserved, and at infrequent and unexpected intervals. Hence it is that the earth is full of Ills, for they come and go as they please and are never far away; while Goods, alas! come one by one only, and have to travel all the way from heaven, so that they are very seldom seen."
If Victorian children were really able to parse that, we have regressed! I have to rephrase each fable in simpler terms before mine understands it. Alice in Wonderland was a similar affair, and that was with the abridged version!
If you look at the back of that book, there was a whole series of "in Words of One Syllable" books. Their revamp of Robinson Crusoe required some hyphenation to meet the criteria. All were published by the Henry Altemus Company of Philadelphia around the year 1900. https://henryaltemus.com/series/series137.htm
stronglikedan · 1h ago
Even this one required hyphenation as pointed out by another commenter (search "butch-er").
vintermann · 4h ago
I used to make a game out of that. Use words with just one word sound, and see how long it takes them to catch on.
As a tool for kids, I don't buy it. If you slip and use a word with two or more word sounds, that won't make it hard. So it's not a rule you need to use.
I had not heard of A. L.'s books, though. As word game, it's fun (though she cheats!). As school tool, as I said I don't buy it.
chrisweekly · 25m ago
There's a party game called "Poetry for Neanderthals" that's exactly that (use only monosyllabic words to describe something when prompted). I really like it.
x______________ · 3h ago
"..a word with two or more word soun-ds"
> ..a word with more than one sound
Did I win? :)
tylershuster · 2h ago
Most all words have more than one sound. There are big sounds and small sounds though. The big parts - "word sounds" — that we don't want, the word "sounds" has just one. It needs no break. You might say that the word "school" has two but that word has just one as well.
(Personally, I always hated "the moral" being spelled out at the end of each story. Oh well.)
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E.g., "butch-ers" appears*, as if hyphenation makes it not a two-syllable word!
* https://archive.org/details/aesopsfablesinwo00aeso/page/12/m...
Your source has “the dog and the shadow” (which subsequently uses “sha-dow”) and “the oxen and the butchers” (and note that “oxen” is not hyphenated). The Gutenberg edition instead has “the child and the brook” in their stead, and “the bear in the wood” inserted after the next one.
"There was a time in the youth of the world when Goods and Ills entered equally into the concerns of men, so that the Goods did not prevail to make them altogether blessed, nor the Ills to make them wholly miserable. But owing to the foolishness of mankind the Ills multiplied greatly in number and increased in strength, until it seemed as though they would deprive the Goods of all share in human affairs, and banish them from the earth. The latter, therefore, betook themselves to heaven and complained to Jupiter of the treatment they had received, at the same time praying him to grant them protection from the Ills, and to advise them concerning the manner of their intercourse with men. Jupiter granted their request for protection, and decreed that for the future they should not go among men openly in a body, and so be liable to attack from the hostile Ills, but singly and unobserved, and at infrequent and unexpected intervals. Hence it is that the earth is full of Ills, for they come and go as they please and are never far away; while Goods, alas! come one by one only, and have to travel all the way from heaven, so that they are very seldom seen."
If Victorian children were really able to parse that, we have regressed! I have to rephrase each fable in simpler terms before mine understands it. Alice in Wonderland was a similar affair, and that was with the abridged version!
https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/%C3%86sop%27s_Fables_(V._S._V...
https://www.masterclass.com/articles/parataxis-vs-hypotaxis-...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lw6TaiXzHAE
https://xkcd.com/547/
As a tool for kids, I don't buy it. If you slip and use a word with two or more word sounds, that won't make it hard. So it's not a rule you need to use.
I had not heard of A. L.'s books, though. As word game, it's fun (though she cheats!). As school tool, as I said I don't buy it.
Did I win? :)