And what worse is that the guilt-tipping POS have started appearing also in Europe. Probably to take advantage of American tourists who wouldn't know better.
JohnFen · 5h ago
One nice thing about those POS tip "requests": they're so infuriating that I've moved further away from paying for things electronically or by card and am using cash more and more instead.
I think that's a good thing.
ralferoo · 5h ago
We have those even at supermarkets in the UK. "Would you like to round up your £1.10 shop and donate 90p to our nominated charity?" and similar gets really irritating after a while.
I think the solution is to legislate that any tips solicited this way for third parties need to have the company match your tip.
For the US situation, it's totally down to the stupid way that minimum wage is defined, where tips are counted towards the minimum wage. In the UK, there's a reasonably generous minimum wage (£12.21 per hour for age 21+) from the employer, and tips would be on top of that minus appropriate taxes.
Larrikin · 4h ago
If you don't think it deserves a tip just click on No Tip. You feel weird once then it just becomes a habit and then freeing to not even have to think about giving money when people just randomly ask you for it. It is silly to pay in cash if you have a credit card with rewards because they are trying to guilt you in to giving them free money.
m000 · 4h ago
And here come the dark UI patterns that won't show you the "No Tip" option upfront, but instead require you to navigate through an unknown menu to find it, or worse enter "0" manually. And at the same time, the next customer is peering over your shoulder to see what the hell takes you this long.
StableAlkyne · 3h ago
> dark UI patterns
Even better is when you tap "No Tip" and they pull out a receipt for you to sign with - you guessed it - another tip field.
Just in case you were on the fence about tipping for the $16 hamburger you drove yourself over to pick up, and haven't even received yet.
Larrikin · 4h ago
It is two or three clicks, the people behind you can wait if the business is introducing this fake pressure into giving them charity
JohnFen · 4h ago
I do, when I need to use a card. It's not weird. The issue is that seeing the prompt at all has become something that actively irritates me, so I prefer to avoid the possibility in the first place.
Using cash also brings other benefits, such as increased privacy. All things considered, I think cash is a better payment solution for me than cards.
bombcar · 4h ago
Ah back for the days of buggy systems that would take a negative tip!
I think that's a good thing.
I think the solution is to legislate that any tips solicited this way for third parties need to have the company match your tip.
For the US situation, it's totally down to the stupid way that minimum wage is defined, where tips are counted towards the minimum wage. In the UK, there's a reasonably generous minimum wage (£12.21 per hour for age 21+) from the employer, and tips would be on top of that minus appropriate taxes.
Even better is when you tap "No Tip" and they pull out a receipt for you to sign with - you guessed it - another tip field.
Just in case you were on the fence about tipping for the $16 hamburger you drove yourself over to pick up, and haven't even received yet.
Using cash also brings other benefits, such as increased privacy. All things considered, I think cash is a better payment solution for me than cards.