The overall funding for starting up a laboratory is much smaller in Europe than the USA.
It's that start up funding that will drive talent, more than anything else.
FirmwareBurner · 3h ago
This. Ivy Leagues will be here in 3.5 years when Trump will not. EU announced 500 million Euros for research while Harvard alone has almost 60 billion endowment.
benoau · 1h ago
That endowment is not their budget for scientific research. The EU basically caught up with what Harvard spends of their own money with that €500 million.
> In fiscal year 2024 (FY24), research at Harvard was supported by more than $1 billion of sponsored funds from federal, foundation, and industry sponsors, alongside an additional $526 million funded directly by the University.
And the kicker is, they're actually planning to overtake Harvard's $526 million investment by approximately three orders of magnitude.
> Von der Leyen announced the 500 million euros ($566.6 million) incentive package and said she also wanted EU member states to invest 3% of gross domestic product in research and development by 2030.
People said that the last time he was elected. Be wary of treating him as an aberration. He’s not magic, he’s exactly what people voted for. What makes you think they won’t vote for the same again with a new face?
moomin · 3h ago
It would be absolutely shocking if the US managed to mess up its incredible lead in scientific research. But like all things, it is the product of a consistent policy environment. If that environment changes, one day people will be writing thinkpieces about the golden age of US universities.
hbartab · 54m ago
That is exactly what Germany did with its scientists in the 1930s/1940s.
I am not attempting to draw any parallels between governments or ideologies here. My goal is to state the obvious: such a self-inflicted brain drain has happened before and it will happen again unless we learn from history, which we (humans) rarely do.
esbranson · 1h ago
If the rest of the world spends zero money on the research areas being cut, then no lead is lost.
sQL_inject · 1h ago
Bounced at their cookie popup just like the scientists will bounce when they see how much their salary is in the EU.
esbranson · 3h ago
Ignorance is bliss and the grass is always greener. #SaveBrainCity
It's that start up funding that will drive talent, more than anything else.
> In fiscal year 2024 (FY24), research at Harvard was supported by more than $1 billion of sponsored funds from federal, foundation, and industry sponsors, alongside an additional $526 million funded directly by the University.
https://osp.finance.harvard.edu/osp-annual-report
> Von der Leyen announced the 500 million euros ($566.6 million) incentive package and said she also wanted EU member states to invest 3% of gross domestic product in research and development by 2030.
https://www.reuters.com/science/eus-von-der-leyen-announces-...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2014_Wales_summit
People said that the last time he was elected. Be wary of treating him as an aberration. He’s not magic, he’s exactly what people voted for. What makes you think they won’t vote for the same again with a new face?
I am not attempting to draw any parallels between governments or ideologies here. My goal is to state the obvious: such a self-inflicted brain drain has happened before and it will happen again unless we learn from history, which we (humans) rarely do.