Ask HN: I just abandoned my PyCharm subscription, what should I use now?

18 jmward01 13 8/25/2025, 3:38:38 AM
I was just using PyCharm, which I have paid for and used for many years now, and and an ad for their 'Cadence' product came up in the IDE as a notification. I have now canceled my subscription and am looking for a good alternative. The majority of work I do is with python and I'm looking for solid step trace debugging and something that integrates reasonably well with Claude Code and other tools like it. Above all else though I am looking for something that won't advertise to me. I am willing to pay, I like supporting software I use, so what should I be looking for in the age of Claude code, Windsurf and the like?

Comments (13)

yehosef · 3h ago
So I understand - you're canceling the subscription because they advertised a product they sell?

Pycharm is the best.

bengt · 3h ago
My hunch is VSCode or more likely Cursor. I’ve spent some time this summer trying to get IDE independent tooling running and have settled on Ruff + basedpyright. Also switched over to using UV. You may want to look into Astral’s TY or facebook’s rust based Pyrefly if keen to alpha / beta test.

I found getting VSCode properly set up and figuring out what extensions were needed a real pain in the ass and have never found something as good as Pycharm’s Git integration.

blibble · 2h ago
I was also willing to pay to support a company that produced software I liked, worked well, and treated me as a valued customer

so when it advertised AI to me I immediately cancelled my very expensive corporate all products ultimate subscription

just using community for now

f311a · 8h ago
VS Code has the second best lsp for Python (it’s proprietary), there is open source version of it as well with less features.

The problem with other editors is the lack of good and fast lsp. Pycharm’s lsp is so head of everyone.

In VS Code and other editors the lsp for Python is written in JavaScript which is hilarious.

lordkrandel · 11h ago
Neovim, simple answer. No subscriptions, no ads, fast, free forever. Have a look at the integrations.
ipaddr · 1h ago
What does neovim often over a standard vim?
lordkrandel · 5m ago
Vim's creator has recently died. He was the creayor and almost solo developer. Neovim has Lua scripting and a vibrant dev community.
brettkromkamp · 10h ago
Agree! Bit of a steep learning curve in the beginning but once you get over that, it is a very productive coding environment. Check out the Neovim distros (e.g., LazyVim, NvChad) to get up and running quickly.
derefnull · 2h ago
Wing IDE is performant and I enjoy using it.

I have licenses for both Wing and PyCharm

caterama · 9h ago
wismwasm · 8h ago
I'm happy with VS Code.
2rsf · 8h ago
Me too, including integration with GitHub Copilot
estimator7292 · 5h ago
I'm so incredibly disappointed at how quickly JetBrains is enshittifying what used to be the best set of IDEs available.

I paid for the all products pack for nearly ten years. I gave up a while ago and I'm just stuck using my fallback licenses for the 2024.1 builds, which are IMO the last usable versions.