Flagging, as there is no indication all of the above countries and representitves are "Zionists".
The US has placed sanctions on her too.
bigyabai · 2h ago
> The US has placed sanctions on her too.
The US is the famously Zionist country, so you're not doing much legwork refuting their claim.
bbarnett · 1h ago
At no point did I say the US was zionist, or not zionist. I stated they placed sanctions.
Meanwhile, ypu ignored the half a dozen countries, and multiple parliamentarians, Ministers, etc from each country, in the link I referred to.
It should also be noted that believing Israel has a right to exist, is not zionism. Zionism is much more extreme.
This woman has been sanctioned for being anti-Semitic. And to carry the point, believing that Israel shouldn't be settling the West bank, isn't anti-Semitic.
I repeat, supporting Israel's right to exist, is not Zionism.
laimewhisps · 1h ago
Believing israel has a right to exist is the definition of Zionism. This woman is not anti-Semitic, she speaks up, correctly, against Israel's many crimes.
bbarnett · 1h ago
If that's your definition, then effectively the entire planet is zionist, including almost all Arab states, and even the PLO.
Are you asserting that Egypt is zionist? The Palatinian Liberation Organization? All of there states have said that Israel has a right to exist. Passed resolutions.
If so, then what value has the word?
Zionism has changed over time. Israel exists, is going no where, and only weirdos think Israel should vanish.
However many will espouse an end to zionism today, which typically and effectively means no more expansion into modern Palastine, and a 2 state solution.
laimewhisps · 48m ago
That is the definition of Zionism. The majority of the world's population is not Zionist and does not support the state of Israel. The governments are a different story.
Modern Israel has existed for more than a century now. Longer than Palestine as a place, after the Ottomon empire fell.
Both peoples have existed in the Middle East, and in that area for thousands of years.
I find few people that think Israel shouldn't exist. Do you have any sort of surveys, indicating that most people on the planet think Israel should bot exist?
It's a very weird assertion.
bigyabai · 17m ago
There are currently Israeli lawmakers calling for crippling sanctions against Israel, as well as Israeli citizens protesting in the streets of Tel Aviv. At this point it's not entirely clear if the Israelis want Israel to exist under Netanyahu's leadership.
laimewhisps · 2h ago
unwatch.org is a Zionist organization. It literally has an Israel link in its top header.
Flagging, as there is no indication all of the above countries and representitves are "Zionists".
The US has placed sanctions on her too.
The US is the famously Zionist country, so you're not doing much legwork refuting their claim.
Meanwhile, ypu ignored the half a dozen countries, and multiple parliamentarians, Ministers, etc from each country, in the link I referred to.
It should also be noted that believing Israel has a right to exist, is not zionism. Zionism is much more extreme.
This woman has been sanctioned for being anti-Semitic. And to carry the point, believing that Israel shouldn't be settling the West bank, isn't anti-Semitic.
I repeat, supporting Israel's right to exist, is not Zionism.
Are you asserting that Egypt is zionist? The Palatinian Liberation Organization? All of there states have said that Israel has a right to exist. Passed resolutions.
If so, then what value has the word?
Zionism has changed over time. Israel exists, is going no where, and only weirdos think Israel should vanish.
However many will espouse an end to zionism today, which typically and effectively means no more expansion into modern Palastine, and a 2 state solution.
https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/Zionism
Both peoples have existed in the Middle East, and in that area for thousands of years.
I find few people that think Israel shouldn't exist. Do you have any sort of surveys, indicating that most people on the planet think Israel should bot exist?
It's a very weird assertion.