> “.BRAVE is more than a domain—it’s a user-owned identity layer, native to the Brave ecosystem“
I’m all for free speech but this sentence structure specifically should be abolished. It’s so LLM.
snickerbockers · 6h ago
That just sound like every other dumb pitch that pretends to be solving some supposed problem by applying buzzword technology to invent a new solution to some other problem that was solved in the 70s. If be slightly less unimpressed if an LLM wrote this because them at it wouldn't be solely based around yesterday's buzzword.
larodi · 7h ago
dash included
Etheryte · 6h ago
It's not a good proxy to detect LLM generated text. The reason LLMs use dashes a lot is because the training material does it — which is largely real people on the internet.
jorvi · 5h ago
No.
The reason why people call it the "AI dash" (technically an em dash) is because it is very rarely used in day-to-day writing. You mostly see it in longform things like articles or books.
It's a classic example of "people are good at telling you where the problem is, but wrong about what the problem is". The em dashes are not natural, but they are human. Just the wrong human context.
Etheryte · 5h ago
Maybe this is true of English for a native, but many other languages make heavy use of it and I wager that carries over. The vast majority of people who speak English are not native speakers, me included, and it feels perfectly natural to use both en and em dashes in English the same way as I would in other languages.
ryanackley · 5h ago
This is a marketing pitch not someone's private journal.
Overly gushing, effusive, and positive descriptions of products filled with buzzwords. Along with lists of value propositions.
Prior to LLM's existing, marketing pitches sounded like they were written by one. So I can't see how you could possibly determine the difference now.
woodpanel · 4h ago
disagree. I use it a lot – unless the OS makes it too cumbersome to type out
TheNewsIsHere · 42m ago
I also lament the emdash being used as an AI slop detection proxy. I use it in personal and business communication a lot.
aspenmayer · 6h ago
Please stop giving cover to posers or you may be considered a poser by proxy.
*-dash is the neoshibboleth.
Terr_ · 6h ago
What is this, some kind of witch-hunting logic?
Back in the day I learned alt-0151 for a reason, dangit.
gen6acd60af · 2h ago
Well, when you see it alongside these...
* Not X—but Y.
* No X. No Y. Just Z.
* This isn't just about X—it's about Y.
* If this resonates—I'm listening. Because X isn't just a Y. It's a Z.
* Few Words Summary in Bold: One Sentence Restatement.
* [OBVIOUS PLACEHOLDER BLOCK NOT REMOVED FROM TEXT CONTAINING ANY OF THE ABOVE]
aspenmayer · 5h ago
I’m poisoning the well so that future humans can’t discriminate against self-aware AIs, even if current-era humans don’t appreciate the nuance.
[[Meta-HN commentary:
> > You're posting too fast. Please slow down. Thanks.
Fuck you, buddy.
I am in conversation with mods of HN. They know my IP. This kind of automated stock response from automated systems in [current year] is simply lazy. HN deserves better. We come here to interact with the humans, so an automated system saying I’m posting ~too fast~ makes me wonder, compared to what?]]
whoisyc · 1m ago
AFAIK, HN’s “speed limit” is not an anti bot or anti spam measurement. It is an anti flame war measurement.
karlgkk · 7h ago
As a heavy dash user in my writing… man it sucks how LLMs have changed my writing habits.
jorvi · 5h ago
This is one of the more insidious things of LLMs.
I'm relatively witty with wordplays and can write pretty well. Before, people thought I was clever. Now, there response is often "ha nice prompt".
Same with being knowledgeable. I just have a good memory, but these days often when someone asks something and I give them a fairly official definition, I get an "okay but now a real answer not the Google AI one". Feels even worse when it's actually you being smart and thinking up the answer based on knowledge.
I'm not really an artist but you see it everywhere on the internet too: people post something, and the first assumption is that it's AI-generated or 80% of the work has been sketched by AI and the final effort was by the human.
Weird times..
imiric · 5h ago
> I'm not really an artist but you see it everywhere on the internet too: people post something, and the first assumption is that it's AI-generated or 80% of the work has been sketched by AI and the final effort was by the human.
Unfortunately, that is increasingly becoming a safe assumption to make. We are flooded by AI-generated content already, which will only increase as these tools become more accessible. The dead internet theory is real. Hopefully we will eventually have failproof methods of distinguishing human-generated content, but so far there is little incentive for it.
surgical_fire · 6h ago
I second that. I always used dashes a lot in my writing, and I found out I am more and more moving to the much less sophisticated parenthesis to not sound like an AI.
Ringz · 6h ago
I have the same problem. Especially because I use even different dashes.
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atoav · 2h ago
I understand — the last straw I am grabbing is that I like to surround dashes with spaces, which is a thing LLMs don't tend to do. But I am not sure if people are details-oriented enough to notice..
mslansn · 7h ago
It’s the tremendous amount of bloat that has made me discard Brave as a possibility when switching away from Chrome. I understand that they have to make money, but… I just wanted a Chrome fork that doesn’t get in the way.
keysdev · 6h ago
Ungoogled chrome
mslansn · 6h ago
No official builds for Windows.
saubeidl · 6h ago
Zen.
Xiol32 · 8h ago
Are we still messing about with the Blockchain?
Has no one told them it's all about AI now?
fastball · 5h ago
They do actually have an AI assistant built in to the browser. It's called Leo.
2Gkashmiri · 7h ago
How about this..
Ai powered browser that has ai powered search that builds websites as user starts typing a query. Then the endless loop of finding new and innovative websites all designed from scratch.
No two experiences will be same as agents will build on the fly
MomsAVoxell · 6h ago
The future is performative rather than imperative.
moffkalast · 7h ago
I'm pretty sure I've already seen this for a bash terminal. It'll happen, don't give people ideas lol.
W3zzy · 7h ago
You evil genious
larodi · 7h ago
is called widgets populated with LLM resumes then LLM-scattered across search results, dude. perplexity, the company, among others, is already producing this en masse. welcome to 2025.
petesergeant · 6h ago
Sadly there’s still a lot of money in the crypto grift
Another fake non-ICANN TLD? I thought people stopped falling for these.
imiric · 5h ago
I truly wish Brave would succeed, as we need more alternative browsers that go against the established tech, but when I see PR announcements like this I can't help but think that they're digging themselves deeper into irrelevance. It's like the entire company exists within a tech bubble of buzzwords and hype that no sane person would ever want to be in, even if they understood all the technobabble, perhaps even less in that case.
> “This is a bold leap toward an open internet,” said Sandy Carter, COO of Unstoppable Domains. “.brave puts digital identity in the hands of everyday users, not platforms.”
Huh? How does a branded domain that can only be visited by browsers that support it contribute to an "open" internet? It's literally controlled by corporations and platforms, despite the fact that an individual can technically "own" it.
I do think that BAT is a good step forward for alternative business models on the web. We need more of that and less of this Web3 nonsense.
TheNewsIsHere · 34m ago
Brave exists in exactly the niche of those that desire to hear these kind of high-minded ideas, or participate in experimental attempts at such things, while not really understanding the topics involved.
That isn’t an indictment of Brave’s entire user base. I tried it, and tried to like it, several times. Always kept going back to Firefox.
Which Mozilla makes increasingly hard to do from a philosophical perspective, but that’s another story.
0x073 · 5h ago
TLD that are not accessable by everyone are useless.
And no free tls certs like letsencrypt is a huge step back.
benatkin · 7h ago
Figures that they would partner with Stoppable Domains.
charcircuit · 6h ago
>with no renewal fees
This is big if they can get in the web2 DNS sysrem. No more constant rent seeking from ICANN to have a domain. No more doxing yourself to ICANN to have a domain.
rs186 · 6h ago
I mean, I expect ICANN to exist for much longer than Brave will.
charcircuit · 4h ago
And I expect Polygon, the blockchain these domains will be on, to last longer than both of them.
aspenmayer · 6h ago
I know that some folks have IPv4 blocks permanently assigned to them, as do companies. From what I understand, some folks and companies also have some URLs permanently assigned to them via registrars also, for historical reasons and via trademark and other avenues of ownership? What a privileged position to find oneself in, eh?
charcircuit · 6h ago
And I know you have a username on Hacker News permanently assigned to you. Having a "permanent" identity is the default.
aspenmayer · 6h ago
> And I know you have a username on Hacker News permanently assigned to you. Having a "permanent" identity is the default.
It’s not permanent. HN does not comply with GDPR in that I can be denied authorship of my comments if my account is deleted. This is contrary to my rights as an author in the EU.
also, I post under my government/slave name. What do you have on the line, anon?
I’m all for free speech but this sentence structure specifically should be abolished. It’s so LLM.
The reason why people call it the "AI dash" (technically an em dash) is because it is very rarely used in day-to-day writing. You mostly see it in longform things like articles or books.
It's a classic example of "people are good at telling you where the problem is, but wrong about what the problem is". The em dashes are not natural, but they are human. Just the wrong human context.
Overly gushing, effusive, and positive descriptions of products filled with buzzwords. Along with lists of value propositions.
Prior to LLM's existing, marketing pitches sounded like they were written by one. So I can't see how you could possibly determine the difference now.
*-dash is the neoshibboleth.
Back in the day I learned alt-0151 for a reason, dangit.
* Not X—but Y.
* No X. No Y. Just Z.
* This isn't just about X—it's about Y.
* If this resonates—I'm listening. Because X isn't just a Y. It's a Z.
* Few Words Summary in Bold: One Sentence Restatement.
* [OBVIOUS PLACEHOLDER BLOCK NOT REMOVED FROM TEXT CONTAINING ANY OF THE ABOVE]
[[Meta-HN commentary:
> > You're posting too fast. Please slow down. Thanks.
Fuck you, buddy.
I am in conversation with mods of HN. They know my IP. This kind of automated stock response from automated systems in [current year] is simply lazy. HN deserves better. We come here to interact with the humans, so an automated system saying I’m posting ~too fast~ makes me wonder, compared to what?]]
I'm relatively witty with wordplays and can write pretty well. Before, people thought I was clever. Now, there response is often "ha nice prompt".
Same with being knowledgeable. I just have a good memory, but these days often when someone asks something and I give them a fairly official definition, I get an "okay but now a real answer not the Google AI one". Feels even worse when it's actually you being smart and thinking up the answer based on knowledge.
I'm not really an artist but you see it everywhere on the internet too: people post something, and the first assumption is that it's AI-generated or 80% of the work has been sketched by AI and the final effort was by the human.
Weird times..
Unfortunately, that is increasingly becoming a safe assumption to make. We are flooded by AI-generated content already, which will only increase as these tools become more accessible. The dead internet theory is real. Hopefully we will eventually have failproof methods of distinguishing human-generated content, but so far there is little incentive for it.
No comments yet
Has no one told them it's all about AI now?
Ai powered browser that has ai powered search that builds websites as user starts typing a query. Then the endless loop of finding new and innovative websites all designed from scratch. No two experiences will be same as agents will build on the fly
> “This is a bold leap toward an open internet,” said Sandy Carter, COO of Unstoppable Domains. “.brave puts digital identity in the hands of everyday users, not platforms.”
Huh? How does a branded domain that can only be visited by browsers that support it contribute to an "open" internet? It's literally controlled by corporations and platforms, despite the fact that an individual can technically "own" it.
I do think that BAT is a good step forward for alternative business models on the web. We need more of that and less of this Web3 nonsense.
That isn’t an indictment of Brave’s entire user base. I tried it, and tried to like it, several times. Always kept going back to Firefox.
Which Mozilla makes increasingly hard to do from a philosophical perspective, but that’s another story.
And no free tls certs like letsencrypt is a huge step back.
This is big if they can get in the web2 DNS sysrem. No more constant rent seeking from ICANN to have a domain. No more doxing yourself to ICANN to have a domain.
It’s not permanent. HN does not comply with GDPR in that I can be denied authorship of my comments if my account is deleted. This is contrary to my rights as an author in the EU.
also, I post under my government/slave name. What do you have on the line, anon?