Quantum Physics Is on the Wrong Track, Says Breakthrough Prize Winner

13 stogot 13 6/28/2025, 5:59:57 AM scientificamerican.com ↗

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moktonar · 2h ago
Unfortunately the correct simulation hypothesis not only can explain how, but also why. There are many wrong formulations of the sim hypothesis, but when done right it can explain almost everything. For example, Constructor Theory is in fact an instance of the simulation hypothesis done quite right, as it avoids the computational problem by stating that the universe is not computed but is itself a “constructor”, which is a computer that can manipulate matter (simplified). Although I agree that Quantum Physics is incomplete, I also don’t think there has to be an underlaying classical picture. But, yeah, we have the wrong point of view on it. The simulation hypothesis (if, again, done right) offers a far better insight on what QP is and why it works like it does. It can explain easily what is Entanglement and why it works like it does. It also offers a pretty good insight on what General Relativity actually describes, and why it works like that. Also offers a very good explanation of the “God plays with dice” problem, and the BH information paradox. That’s all IMHO, of course.
d4rkn0d3z · 2h ago
Why does a cat being both alive and dead sound like nonsense? It seems to me to be the most accurate description of nature. The "cat" is some kind of soup of cells and other more primitive life forms engaged in a pitched battle for resources that results in the experience we categorize as "cat". To us at scale, we create the ontological notion 'cat" but reality does seem not care about our ontology. That is all you need to accept in order for the quantum mechanical formalism to lose its mysteriousness.

I have a gold medal in theoretical physics and I find quantum mechanics presents no difficulty or mysticism. There is however significant lament that the reductionist paradigm has failed to produce a deterministic universe from the decidedly probabilistic one we inhabit.

VivaTechnics · 5h ago
He argues:

There must be an underlying deterministic system. - We don’t know what it is yet. - Quantum mechanics is incomplete, not wrong — it hides deeper rules. - His belief is based on logic, not current experimental proof.

In short, he says we don’t know what it is, but it’s something out there.

potamic · 4h ago
Very interesting. Isn't this calling for hidden variables again? I thought physicists largely dropped the idea in favour of Copenhagen interpretation. As a layman, this is exciting. Quantum mechanics really puts a barrier in terms of understanding through intuition, and if this leads to some new interpretation that is more "digestible", it might open up more things to access and learn about.
AndrewOMartin · 3h ago
As far as I can tell, it's Bell's Theorem which shows that results we see can't be the result of hidden variables, so either this guy is throwing out this very well known and uncontroversial point, or he's doing something a bit more subtle.

I ain't no physicist but I learned about Bell's Theorem from a video where Feynman is explaining it in terms of boxes with buttons and lights on them, while dressed in a tracksuit. The audience keep asking questions so he goes over the idea about two dozen times, but that's not necessarily a bad thing in this case.

rcxdude · 1h ago
> As far as I can tell, it's Bell's Theorem which shows that results we see can't be the result of hidden variables

Strictly speaking, it can't be the result of local hidden variables under the assumption that you can make decisions in the detector that are independent of the experiment that you're doing. Usually those who argue for something like hidden variables try to find wriggle room in the latter part (that these decisions are somehow inherently correlated with what's being measured). But this is also deeply weird, because you could base these decisions in principle on information that has not had a causal relationship with the experiment since the start of the universe. (this idea is called superdeterminism)

ks1723 · 58m ago
This is formalized in the Kochen–Specker theorem [1]. Quantum mechanics is shown to incompatible with the following three assumptions being true simultaneously: (1) locality, (2) non-contextually (independent of the context of the experiments (3) realism.

AFAIK, at least one assumption needs to go.

There is a nice paper by N. David Mermin illustrating the incompatibility [2].

[1] https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kochen%E2%80%93Specker_theor...

[2] https://www.physics.wisc.edu/courses/home/spring2020/407/exp...

AndrewDucker · 3h ago
He seems to have decided there has to be a classical basis underlying quantum results. But offers no reasoning as to why he believes this. I'm sceptical.
ktallett · 3h ago
I mean this much is clear within the physics community that we haven't found a complete understanding of quantum physics. We can explain what we can test and view but that is it. Wrong is such a strong term but I am sure some aspects will be revised with new information. We won't be spot on with everything.

I would recommend reading Chiara Marletto's book on Constructor Theory which is an attempt at breaking physics into fundamental can and can nots, which is a start for the next step of determining the missing physical rules.

jurschreuder · 4h ago
I think our numerical system is a bit like Fahrenheit.

Fahrenheit draws a line between three points and assumes a "law in nature". This was false (short answer).

The fact that there are things like PI for a circle means our numerical system has been invented before we had any knowledge about quantum quantities for lack of a better word (like autonomous autos X).

Math is wrong. But it's gotten this "holy" status of almost defining intelligence, like Latin is to English.

It's clearly wrong (to me at least) but it's such a big part of "smart" people's egos.

shusaku · 33m ago
PI appears when you’re trying to mathematically describe an oscillating quantity. So it could be a circle, or it could be a wave. So I don’t think it’s the red flag you think it is.
x3n0ph3n3 · 4h ago
Hot take. Why shouldn't things like PI exist?