It may be a European stereotype to say this, but I perpetually find it odd that Americans are so afraid of naked (female) bodies and, on entertainment at least, so blasé about violence. In Denmark, Aarhus science museum (a very kid friendly place) has an exhibit all about aging, featuring life size large naked photos of about ten people of all ages showing what changes throughout life.
Gualdrapo · 11d ago
When I had a facebook account I was in a group of there named like "steel is real - classic road bikes" where I used to post stuff. I'd bet it still exist. Most of the people on this group seemed to be what they call "baby boomers" from both Europe and the USA.
Between the funny/silly/cool stuff one day I posted a picture of a sculpture resembling a feminine silhouette made of bicycle chains (can't find the picture online, most probably it was from Seo Young-Deok). I thought it was really cool how the artist used the chains and found their "plasticity" to create surfaces.
It wasn't the first time I posted "art-sy" stuff; I recall posting a picture of Alicja Kwade's "Journey without arrival" (think a warped steel road bicycle).
This was around 10 years ago but I still can recall how some people there called me names and everything beyond because I was a "pervert" or something like that because I dared to post a picture resembling a naked woman. Mods ended locking the post but didn't removed it.
But then when that same people made mildy xenophobic/racist comments against me out of nowhere (before of after that incident), nobody bat an eye.
therealpygon · 11d ago
Seems like you got a dose of the Tea Party/MAGA/AltRight hypocrisy.
trilbyglens · 10d ago
This Neurosis is very common through out the American south.
Hizonner · 11d ago
I think I would have banned that particular seal for being so damned ugly. They had earlier ones that weren't that bad.
Actually an awful lot of official seals are hideous designs. You'd think they'd try to do better than that.
Marianne has TWO naked breasts with BOTH nipples visible. And she is not shaved.
When I was a teenager in the 80's in France, we had on Sunday morning on TV a fitness show (exercises to follow at home). The end featured the two leading ladies taking a shower in full view. We were all very much into fitness then.
dinfinity · 10d ago
I gotta say, that is pretty weird. True story, though:
Many things we grew up with seem weird today. The good thing is that we (the X gen) have a very natural relationship to our bodies. Beaches were 50% topless as well. We had very good sex education at school. We speak about sex with our children without special issues.
As for this show: try to sing the "tu tu tu tu" music of the closing credits, everyone 50-60 will immediately understand. If you want to show off your culture, you can mention the Canal+ movies on Saturday at midnight - the encoding was weird: you could not understand the sound, but with some experience you could watch the movie :)
Ahhhh, good times :) (as a 14 yo I learned quickly about electronics to be able to automate the TV switch off when the parents were coming too close)
NB: the link you provided is to the INA (Institut national de l'audiovisuel), the official national body for preservation of French TV and movies. It is a good thing they preserved that one - not for the nudes but to show that times were very different in the 80's
saagarjha · 11d ago
I think they should’ve banned “Virginia” far earlier to be honest.
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timewizard · 11d ago
They didn't ban it. They removed it from their curriculum. They felt that state policy demanded it. There have been multiple versions of the seal and many of them do not depict the character with an exposed breast.
5555624 · 11d ago
Most of the ones with the breasts covered were before the Civil War. In 1875, the seal exposed both breasts. Of the several versions after that, I believe only hte 1904 version covered both breasts. The current design dates to 1912 and was made official in 1950, although the description in the Code of Virginia (§1-500) makes no mention of Virtus' breast being exposed.
While Virtus has one breast exposed on the obverse, Libertas, Aeternitas, Ceres are fully clothed on the reverse.
defrost · 11d ago
Not banned, just expurgated then?
That seems a perineum of difference.
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sneak · 10d ago
Wait until they see what infant children do when they see naked female breasts.
The doublethink in believing that breasts are harmful to children is really, really strong.
jauntywundrkind · 11d ago
Also a MAGA state heavily likely to be deeply offended by "Sic Semper Tyrannis" on the flag. How dare anyone question their king?!
Between the funny/silly/cool stuff one day I posted a picture of a sculpture resembling a feminine silhouette made of bicycle chains (can't find the picture online, most probably it was from Seo Young-Deok). I thought it was really cool how the artist used the chains and found their "plasticity" to create surfaces.
It wasn't the first time I posted "art-sy" stuff; I recall posting a picture of Alicja Kwade's "Journey without arrival" (think a warped steel road bicycle).
This was around 10 years ago but I still can recall how some people there called me names and everything beyond because I was a "pervert" or something like that because I dared to post a picture resembling a naked woman. Mods ended locking the post but didn't removed it.
But then when that same people made mildy xenophobic/racist comments against me out of nowhere (before of after that incident), nobody bat an eye.
Actually an awful lot of official seals are hideous designs. You'd think they'd try to do better than that.
Marianne has TWO naked breasts with BOTH nipples visible. And she is not shaved.
When I was a teenager in the 80's in France, we had on Sunday morning on TV a fitness show (exercises to follow at home). The end featured the two leading ladies taking a shower in full view. We were all very much into fitness then.
- The show IMDB page: https://www.imdb.com/title/tt15546970/
- The ending: https://www.ina.fr/ina-eclaire-actu/video/i05053347/generiqu...
As for this show: try to sing the "tu tu tu tu" music of the closing credits, everyone 50-60 will immediately understand. If you want to show off your culture, you can mention the Canal+ movies on Saturday at midnight - the encoding was weird: you could not understand the sound, but with some experience you could watch the movie :)
Ahhhh, good times :) (as a 14 yo I learned quickly about electronics to be able to automate the TV switch off when the parents were coming too close)
NB: the link you provided is to the INA (Institut national de l'audiovisuel), the official national body for preservation of French TV and movies. It is a good thing they preserved that one - not for the nudes but to show that times were very different in the 80's
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While Virtus has one breast exposed on the obverse, Libertas, Aeternitas, Ceres are fully clothed on the reverse.
That seems a perineum of difference.
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The doublethink in believing that breasts are harmful to children is really, really strong.
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