Is it possible that these two chips have hardware trojans in them?

1 slowdoorsemillc 7 9/10/2025, 7:14:01 PM
"RDSEED is similar to RDRAND and provides lower-level access to the entropy-generating hardware. The RDSEED generator and processor instruction rdseed are available with Intel Broadwell CPUs[8] and AMD Zen CPUs.[9]"

"The RDSEED instruction was added to Intel Secure Key for seeding another pseudorandom number generator,[15] available in Broadwell CPUs."

That's 5th Gen Intel and Zen 1.

As far as I know, only pseudorandom number generators have a seed value to enter in, whereas true random number generators that use environmental variables do not have a seed value.

Does this mean that 5th Gen Intel and Zen 1 and newer have insecure RNG that is backdoored?

Also why did AMD's stock value begin to grow a lot with the release of Zen 1, which had this RNG change? The CIA is 100% manipulating the stock market.

I can tell my computer is hacked when I use anything newer than my 3rd Gen Intel that's in my 2012 Macbook Pro.

I figured it out, it's the CIA. Edward Snowden got no punishment for leaking despite "NSA reads minds" and yet the CIA leakers got 40 years and 8 months for not even leaking the code. The CIA has an AI that wrote several hundreds of millions of lines of software exploit code according to Vault 7. CIA and their Artifical Intelligence(s) are the deep state.

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PaulHoule · 3h ago
Ask your healthcare provider about https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chlorpromazine
slowdoorsemillc · 2h ago
How do I block someone on HN? I hate ad-hominems. There may be a hardware backdoor in the 5th Gen Intel and Zen 1 and newer CPUs. I can tell my computer is hacked when I use anything newer than my 3rd Gen Intel that's in my 2012 Macbook Pro.

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genezeta · 3h ago
You only need to read a bit further...

    The RDSEED instruction is intended for seeding a software PRNG of arbitrary width, whereas the RDRAND is intended for applications that merely require high-quality random numbers.
jareds · 2h ago
Extraordinary claims require extraordinary proof. AMD's processors got much better, more people started buying them, the stock went up.
slowdoorsemillc · 2h ago
I figured it out, it's the CIA. Edward Snowden got no punishment for leaking despite "NSA reads minds" and yet the CIA leakers got 40 years and 8 months for not even leaking the code. The CIA has an AI that wrote several hundreds of millions of lines of software exploit code according to Vault 7. CIA and their Artifical Intelligence(s) are the deep state.
PaulHoule · 2h ago
Re: another of my comments it is that bit about the stock market which got me to think that this is about psychiatry instead of technology.

I can't entirely discount even the most egregious possibilities of backdoors in software and hardware constrained by: (1) the difficulty of maintaining a conspiracy with a large number of conspirators (the number of people who know about it must be small) and (2) almost a physical law that any device which falls into the hands of the enemy will give up any secrets it has, especially if many instances of that device are available. Granted, in many cases you can make a back door look like an accident, if it is a C program for instance you are going to make a "careless" mistake that introduces a stack or heap overflow.

The thing is that if the US chip industry is caught doing something like than then you will see Europe wake out of its slumber and create an Airbus of chipmaking, that kind of thing has consequences.

That bit about the stock market is a "tell"

Paranoia though is a thought process and it is not going to stop with one idea which may or may not be true but it just runs continously and I suspect if you interviewed this person for an hour you'd see this thought process go through multiple times. My experience with psychosis is that delusions run on rails and you rarely see new or creative delusions but rather a fascination with perpetual motion machines, cures for cancer, unified field theories and the stock market (not like... shitcoins, swaps, options, other derivatives) It's always the same thing and there's barely a pause where one of them ends and something else from the standard playbook begins. Had he not said that about the stock market I might have engaged with it at face value.

The OP really should seek medical help —- a person in this condition who doesn’t have good social support could easily lose their housing.

uberman · 3h ago
There is no conspiracy here. RDSEED and RDRAND both use physical entropy sources like thermal noise to generate true random bits.