I just don’t believe that people should be allowed to benefit from limited liability if they aren’t willing to share ownership information and addresses of service if the corporate veil needs to be pierced. I get that people deserve privacy of their home addresses and similar but I feel the public benefit of being able to hold people accountable for their actions is very important. You need to know who you’re entitled to sue if you have a cause of action.
Spooky23 · 3h ago
Shocking. Crooks getting ripped off by the crooks they hire.
charcircuit · 3h ago
There really needs to be more ways to create anonymous companies to avoid scams like this. It's scary to dox yourself if you want to start a company. Anyone can find your home address if they know the name of your company.
Not everyone wants to be swatted in exchange for the legal protections and funding opportunities granted by forming a business creates.
jakobnissen · 2h ago
I don't think anonymous companies make sense ethically, and they're demonstrably causing harm to society by enabling corruption and money laundering.
To address your concern, I think the problem is that a) the address is publically available in your country, and b) your police is so violent that they weaponize prank calls to lethal threats. That's an issue of shit policing.
The idea that you can exercise power in society and have zero accountability and demand to stay anonymous is either a) an cyberpunk fantasy, or b) a cleptocrat's dream.
charcircuit · 2h ago
>by enabling corruption and money laundering.
The owner of the company being anonymous or not is not relevant here. These things can be done by people other than the owner and these people are already anonymous.
>That's an issue of shit policing.
It's an issue with every service. You can get prank pizzas, prank Uber eats, prank door dash, prank packages, prank letters (glitter, stinky, etc), etc. Almost no one ever validates addresses before a service uses them.
>The idea that you can exercise power in society and have zero accountability and demand to stay anonymous
I never required the former. There could still be a process to make anonymously owned businesses accountable.
Eddy_Viscosity2 · 1h ago
> It's an issue with every service.
Classic false equivalence. Being shot to death by overzealous and unaccountable swat teams is NOT the same as getting delivered a pizza you didn't order.
charcircuit · 57m ago
It's not a false eqivalence. Personally I still wouldn't want to share my home addresses even if swatting was not a thing. If bad and more bad thing exist. The more bad thing not existing doesn't mean there is nothing bad left.
queenkjuul · 1h ago
Maybe the police should validate claims with a little more scrutiny than pizza hut. Nobody's getting killed by a prank pizza.
charcircuit · 1h ago
They validate the claim by paying you a visit. That's the point of the prank.
JohnnyDoe_is · 1h ago
come on Johnnydoe.is to discuss it! There you can find solutions that work.
ceo-eu · 4h ago
“Don’t worry, we’ll put the company in our name, but you’ll still control it.”
Not everyone wants to be swatted in exchange for the legal protections and funding opportunities granted by forming a business creates.
To address your concern, I think the problem is that a) the address is publically available in your country, and b) your police is so violent that they weaponize prank calls to lethal threats. That's an issue of shit policing.
The idea that you can exercise power in society and have zero accountability and demand to stay anonymous is either a) an cyberpunk fantasy, or b) a cleptocrat's dream.
The owner of the company being anonymous or not is not relevant here. These things can be done by people other than the owner and these people are already anonymous.
>That's an issue of shit policing.
It's an issue with every service. You can get prank pizzas, prank Uber eats, prank door dash, prank packages, prank letters (glitter, stinky, etc), etc. Almost no one ever validates addresses before a service uses them.
>The idea that you can exercise power in society and have zero accountability and demand to stay anonymous
I never required the former. There could still be a process to make anonymously owned businesses accountable.
Classic false equivalence. Being shot to death by overzealous and unaccountable swat teams is NOT the same as getting delivered a pizza you didn't order.