Ask HN: How to Harden Your Phone?

5 mandeepj 10 9/3/2025, 2:46:11 AM
Inspired by this thread - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45106903

Whenever I hear the Pegasus app or read about it at HN, I get a bit worried. So, today was that day again.

I'm sure we have cybersecurity experts, security researchers, and Infosec pros here at HN. What do you recommend to keep your phone, especially an iPhone, hardened as a brick? Came across the following article, although a bit dated, which suggests not using FaceTime and iMessage. But in another search, I found iMessage is more secure than just plain old SMS/Text. I'm more worried about zero-click exploits.

https://usa.kaspersky.com/blog/how-to-protect-from-pegasus-spyware/26103/

Just a thought - would having a firewall[0] on your phone to block any incoming request or quarantine it for review will work? A response to a user-initiated request is different than an independent request coming to your phone. A clarification to avoid mixing both.

Also, a traffic monitor[1] to watch excessive outgoing traffic or excessive hard drive reads to detect if you are compromised.

I've also been thinking about developing a custom Secure Vault app, more like an isolated Sandbox; I'll share more details about it if I think I can pull it off. Any pointers, books, articles, or videos are greatly appreciated.

Security is a fascinating topic; Let's discuss.

[0] : https://apps.apple.com/us/app/guardian-firewall-vpn/id1363796315

[1]: https://apps.apple.com/us/app/traffic-monitor-with-widget/id482570191

[2]: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1p0Xm-Opzjg (Catching NSO Group's Pegasus spyware)

[3]: https://help.apple.com/pdf/security/en_US/apple-platform-security-guide.pdf

[4]: https://www.reuters.com/technology/cybersecurity/governments-spying-apple-google-users-through-push-notifications-us-senator-2023-12-06/

Comments (10)

runjake · 6h ago
This guide for iPhone and Android is a good start. Not all their recommendations are obvious.

https://www.cisa.gov/sites/default/files/2024-12/guidance-mo...

For a deeper guide, check out the CISecurity benchmarks for your smartphone. They go a bit deeper. But the CISA guide will get you most of the way there.

https://www.cisecurity.org/cis-benchmarks

k310 · 5h ago
How about this idea?

Since a great deal of mobile usage is at home, how about a firewall of the home network as an 80/20 kind of solution? (YMMV) You might include a VPN.

This does not help away from home.

I have asked friends to use Signal for its many features, but I'm in low-tech company lately. They need a kick. Signal might address your messaging needs, and TBH, is better than imessage or FaceTime in mixed company. "Green people". Mainly because it is entirely crosds-platform.

mandeepj · 5h ago
Can you please expand on 80/20 rule? 20% of traffic on mobile device or 20% might be suspicious?

I believe Signal is compromised! There are many such articles online https://www.truesec.com/hub/blog/russian-intelligence-compro...

necovek · 4h ago
They suggest you might be at home 80% of the time, thus firewall on the home network would protect during that time.
k310 · 3h ago
That was my intent. Simply that you might be protected 80% of the time, if you spend 80% of your usage at home, and of course, YMMV.

But the 80/20 rule as written about is quite different. Simplified, it states that some 20% of effort or cases can give 80% of the results, whereas the other 20% can take 80% of your time/effort to nail.

Please query Signal about any security concerns. There was a clone of it being used by government officials that had flaws.

2rsf · 3h ago
Who and what are you trying to protect from? ICE/NSA will hack your phone, and all you can do as an amateur is to make their life harder (and raise their suspicion even more)
reify · 31m ago
I alway found that dipping it in some araldite epoxy resin works great

Basically, squeeze both tubes, part A and part B, into a bowl, mix well.

lay your phone on a flat surface and pour the mixed araldite over the phone.

smooth and level the araldite with a plastic tool.

let dry.

sorted!

max_ · 3h ago
At the bare minimum, ditch the iPhone.

Get a pixel

Install grapheneOS

mandeepj · 3h ago
Ordered a Pixel 10 pro XL a couple days ago :-)

You believe GrapheneOS is more secure than Android?

max_ · 2h ago
Stock Android & iOS are literally spyware.

GrapheneOS is very private.