> I will forever mourn the general demise of server browsers.
Aeolun · 1h ago
I feel like it should be up to valve to fix this no? It feels like it should be possible to require an email for everyone that wants to start a server and then boot all of the ones that cannot be bothered to reply to your messages to stop spamming the server browser.
leftyspook · 25m ago
If you finished reading before commenting, you'd know that a steam account is required to run a server, and that burner accounts are no problem for server operators.
xeonmc · 1h ago
They could also use the Minecraft approach, where you're free to join servers via IP/domain addresses from a simple UI instead of being obliged to trudge through the browser.
diath · 1h ago
Has anything changed in CS2? You could always just `connect host:port` in the console in Counter-Strike.
wiredpancake · 27m ago
Console isn't even enabled by default. The average player would need to:
1. Enable Developer Console in Settings
2. Find a server via a third party website
3. Use said IP + Port to connect.
* This results in low dedicated server player counts due to effort and the issues mentioned in the blog above.
Valve has expressed intentions directly and indirectly to remove the console from CS2 and operate almost exclusively out of the in-game Settings menu.
Over the years, this setting menu has increased in options. Although to cover the vast amount of commands is simply impossible.
Yet known the debug or cheat-protected commands.
leftyspook · 56m ago
Nothing changed, you need to know that host:port first, and that's where the problems with the official serverlist being flooded with fake entries become apparent.
beckthompson · 1h ago
Play casual matches! They only match you with players nearby and its a lot of fun. I regularly see the same people and its a lot of fun getting to know everyone and banter throughout the game (I only play the hostage gamemode as well).
The only issue I've had is the amount of bots. When I play I regularly get into matches where 19/20 players are all bots and they auto kick you the moment you join. Its very frustrating
leftyspook · 1h ago
That really is not a solution.
Third party servers used to host plenty of non-standard gamemodes that Valve does not provide. Retakes, mentioned in the blogpost, is one of those modes.
beckthompson · 54m ago
of course! But there isn't much else to do so I'm just giving a solution that works for me
homebrewer · 1h ago
I recently looked at 1.6 servers for the first time in maybe 10 years. There are tons of active servers out there now, far more than there were ten years ago, and they're filled to the brim with bots, which definitely was not the norm back then. You used to see just a few active servers filled with real players, and the rest were simply empty, with either zero or just a couple of players who knew each other.
What changed? Was this lunacy adopted from CS2?
beckthompson · 53m ago
I'm pretty sure the bots are farming "Drops" which they'll sell for money. Every week you get a free case (or skin I think) which the bots are taking advantage of
Err, no. Bots (in the context of 1.6 at least) are not tied to a Steam account and can't earn anything.
Anyway, GP's is not my impression of 1.6 back in the day: lots of bot servers back then too.
Aeolun · 1h ago
Just another variation of Eternal September?
colejohnson66 · 1h ago
An all bot server kicking the only human player?
rtldg · 1h ago
Yes. People make software to control accounts (botting) and to farm experience in CS2. They'll later sell the accounts or use them for spamming reports against real players and other such things. So they fill up a Valve-ran casual server so real players cannot join and report the bots to Valve.
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=44941369 (460+ comments) Counter-Strike: A billion-dollar game built in a dorm room
> I will forever mourn the general demise of server browsers.
1. Enable Developer Console in Settings 2. Find a server via a third party website 3. Use said IP + Port to connect. * This results in low dedicated server player counts due to effort and the issues mentioned in the blog above.
Valve has expressed intentions directly and indirectly to remove the console from CS2 and operate almost exclusively out of the in-game Settings menu.
Over the years, this setting menu has increased in options. Although to cover the vast amount of commands is simply impossible.
Yet known the debug or cheat-protected commands.
The only issue I've had is the amount of bots. When I play I regularly get into matches where 19/20 players are all bots and they auto kick you the moment you join. Its very frustrating
Third party servers used to host plenty of non-standard gamemodes that Valve does not provide. Retakes, mentioned in the blogpost, is one of those modes.
What changed? Was this lunacy adopted from CS2?
Anyway, GP's is not my impression of 1.6 back in the day: lots of bot servers back then too.