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Enlisting in the Fight Against Link Rot
159 jszymborski 101 8/12/2025, 2:52:54 PM jszym.com ↗
Having an official Google domain that anyone can hijack is dangerous, given that many people's main internet identity is GMail (aka their Google account). I know anyone can create an offshoot (goooogle.org, etc), but Google was using goo.gl too.
It was easy to redirect a goo.gl to a Google login page (which is on a real Google domain), and trick people into authorizing access to their account.
I consider myself savvy, and I got a pretty convincing one recently. The email looked legit, and the link was a goo.gl link that ultimately landed me on a legitimate Google login page. It didn't trick me, but it did take me a few minutes to figure out how it wasn't legit.
NOTE: This article is kinda misleading. They already stopped letting people add new links in 2019. And now, they're only removing "inactive" links, AKA links that had no activity since 2024. If you visit a link right now, it will be kept. Here's more info: https://blog.google/technology/developers/googl-link-shorten...
Instead, they're just disappearing _all_* goo.gl short links. The overwhelming majority of which are benign links made by users who were promised a super stable URL link shortening service backed by the Google brand.
*edit: Not all, but nearly.
> All other [active] goo.gl links will be preserved and will continue to function as normal. To check if your link will be retained, visit the link today. If your link redirects you without a message, it will continue to work.
https://developers.googleblog.com/en/google-url-shortener-li...
They already did this in 2019.
The service has been deprecated for a very long time.
> Instead, they're just disappearing _all_ goo.gl short links
This is false. They are sunsetting inactive links.
It is true that it is not _all_ links, apologies. "Inactive" here is defined as "not visited in 2024" which is a crazy small envelope. I wouldn't be surprised if nearly all links were deleted.
...which is even harder to justify than removing them all.
No, only those that were deemed "active" in 2024 will be kept.
The goo.gl link shortener hasn’t accepted new links for many years. Over 99% of the links had no recent activity. The play was to scrape the web for old goo.gl links that went to expired domains, register the domain, and then you have a goo.gl URL that you can send wherever you want, indefinitely.
Nearly all of the angry blog posts, Tweets, and HN comments missed this and jumped to the conclusion that it was purely a cost cutting measure, but link official-looking open redirect URLs are a big deal in the security space.
"Recent" is defined within the last year. If the Wayback Machine adopted this logic, it would be useless.
The security concerns were largely addressed by not accepting new links. This was a cost cutting measure, plain and simple. I think we all agree that a goo.gl shortener was a terrible idea to begin with, and my blog post even shows evidence that folks knew this was a bad idea at launch.
It would make sense if they were pruning links whose TARGETS were no longer responding. But all the unused links are costing essentially nothing. Essentially all the cost was spent already.
> The play was to scrape the web for old goo.gl links that went to expired domains, register the domain, and then you have a goo.gl URL that you can send wherever you want, indefinitely.
For goo.gl links that were created by google, continue redirecting them as normal. For others, show a warning page explaining to the user that the link wasn't created (or vouched for) by google. If they press an "agree" button, still don't show a clickable link, but instead show it as plain text to be copied.
This makes me wonder if they're retiring sites.google.com any time soon?
Is there a major benefit I'm missing? I could kind of see them if you have a character limit, want to hide the URL, or have to type a URL manually. But manual typing is rare, and even microblogging services are expanding character limits. Hiding the URL seems slightly sketchy, but you can achieve it without a shorter URL so maybe that's not a real benefit.
Anyway, I'm actually curious about this because people seem to love them.
(and this is aside from all the very valid issues and concerns people have with Google shutting down a widely used service).
But otherwise I think it's about traffic and tracking.
First in that you can track visitors to the short link, perhaps in a more centralized place if your org has multiple systems or if you're linking to sites you don't otherwise control. And secondly it's used when tacking on tons of query parameters that would otherwise make it too long even with expanded character limits. And just aesthetically a short link might be more aesthetic in your post.
Imagine seeing "link.short/abcd1234" vs "linksrus.corporate/blog/2025/08/12/the-title-of-our-post.html?utm=something&some-other-tracking-param=abcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyz&even-more-data-in-the-url&some-hashed-value=QXNoIG5hemcgZHVyYmF0dWzDu2ssCiAgIGFzaCBuYXpnIGdpbWJhdHVsLApBc2ggbmF6ZyB0aHJha2F0dWzDu2sKICAgYWdoIGJ1cnp1bS1pc2hpIGtyaW1wYXR1bAoKT25lIHJpbmcgdG8gcnVsZSB0aGVtIGFsbCwKICAgb25lIHJpbmcgdG8gZmluZCB0aGVtLApPbmUgcmluZyB0byBicmluZyB0aGVtIGFsbAogICBhbmQgaW4gdGhlIGRhcmtuZXNzIGJpbmQgdGhlbS4KCg"
It's absolutely not rare. I can't tell you how many times I sat in the back of a classroom, squinting at a whiteboard, trying to type copy a URL that looked like this: https://www.nytimes.com/2025/08/12/technology/silicon-chips-...
This NYT link is actually pretty good. year/month/day/category/title is pretty nice. The query parameter ruins it, but that's kind of unavoidable if you want a reproducible link with extra data. Usually you can omit query parameters and the URL should still work.
Later, adding things like analytics and tracking (eg: not just in social media, but also in email campaigns) became another reason to use them, especially for those less tech inclined.
Of course, this is possible in other ways, but note that I said, “easy”. ;)
go/holidays = holiday schedule
go/itrequest
go/ithelpdesk
go/corpcalendar
go/fsckyourself = self-service filesystem healthchecks
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yes, it is still a little chaotic, and no, it should not be a complete substitute for a well-indexed corporate directory. But it is a really useful shortcut generator for the people that are good at memorizing them, and it costs little to operate internally. Every place that I've worked at that didn't have one, I wish had one.
And more organizations should adopt them because they are great.
After stripping any past statistical data from each entry, it shouldn't be that much of data per URL...
Giving the domain to a 3rd party is not going to happen.
The point is whether Google considered any other options than keep operating it or burning everything to the ground. Google could also keep the domain and let users reach a intermediary landing page of the Internet Archive first
They could possibly provide a GCP service where you make an authenticated request to look up the value of a given goo.gl key. That would mitigate fishing concerns, eliminate the pressure of running a productionized legacy service, and allow the to do use quotas etc to tamp down on abuse. But that also would be covered by the regulatory laws and I don't know what they say about such a thing.
It would be a serious breach of trust for them to publish the database. It likely includes links to non-public YT video URLs, for example.
Two weeks ago [1] they were doing 37k a minute with ETA just barely before end of the month. Now it's ~55k a minute, and ETA of just 5 more days.
[1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=44688478
0: https://wiki.archiveteam.org/index.php/ArchiveTeam_Warrior#A...
1: https://github.com/ArchiveTeam/warrior-dockerfile/blob/maste...
IIRC, that's about how long Google+ lasted, after they locked my access to the blog I'd been writing for four years ... until I gave them my real name.
<b>Moral of story</b>: With Google, it's always something.
Google shifts goo.gl policy: Inactive links deactivated, active links preserved - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=44759918 - Aug 2025 (189 comments)
Google's shortened goo.gl links will stop working next month - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=44683481 - July 2025 (222 comments)
Google URL Shortener links will no longer be available - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40998549 - July 2024 (49 comments)
Ask HN: Google is sunsetting goo.gl on 3/30. What will be your URL shortener? - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=19385433 - March 2019 (14 comments)
Tell HN: Goo.gl (Google link Shortener) is shutting down - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=16902752 - April 2018 (45 comments)
Google is shutting down its goo.gl URL shortening service - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=16722817 - March 2018 (56 comments)
Transitioning Google URL Shortener to Firebase Dynamic Links - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=16719272 - March 2018 (53 comments)
* Microsoft has code that references a URL shorterner
* The URL shortener is in-house and points to a Microsoft property.
* However, the documentation team don’t keep this stuff up to date, resulting in you getting error messages containing a broken link.
You would have thought it would be more than possible for Microsoft to keep their own house in order.
But they actually backtracked and said they'll keep the "active" links working.
Why even spend the effort to remove the "inactive" links? They must feel they represent some sort of liability?
Or would it have been too embarrassing to just cancel the whole turn-down plan?
<quote> Over time, these existing URLs saw less and less traffic as the years went on - in fact more than 99% of them had no activity in the last month.</quote>
I'm sure it's correct that the wast majority of links would never be used again, but to gauge which links this is I'd say you should measure at LEAST a year.
it is relatively simple and inexpensive to operate and there is no reason it can’t continue operating into the indefinite future.
I disagree with the op on one major point… They suggest that the proper way for a service like this to operate is with a public database of links…
However, when I think of all of the different ways, one might use a shorter, it seems obvious that many links would necessarily be sensitive and/or private.
Therefore, I consider myself to have a dual mandate: privacy of the links created, and a duty, that I have assumed, of running the service for decades.
I do think that, however, that a service can keep their DB public _iff_ users know that's the case before creating links. Often times, folks are just shortening public links, but it is true that people sometimes share "private" links (e.g., Google Doc private links, etc...) which shouldn't be enumerated.
[0] https://archive.org/details/301works-faq
Also, don't use link shorteners... and don't build link shorteners as it just enables people to use them.
Is it because they're worried that the domain name goo.gl in the link implies a Google endorsement? Seems like they should have thought of that before launching the service in the first place?
Still, the frequency of actual abuse must be low and going down over time (due to the data set being read-only since 2019 and actual traffic to these links surely decreasing as time goes on)...
If you go to Google Maps right now, drop a pin, and right lick to Share This Location you get a goo.gl link:
https://maps.app.goo.gl/mPMvmv3dJDsLGvtF9
Anyone know why these would return “ Google asks for a login, sleeping 20 minutes.”?
Step 2: shut it down
Step 3: make every link redirect to an advertisement
Step 4: profit
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https://web.archive.org/web/20250527052607/https://www.theat...
Google is not some opaque corporate entity (I mean, yes it IS, but...), it is made up of individuals, many of whom read this site.
Google should offer to send (the public content from) their DB directly to The Internet Archive. It results in LESS overhead for Google than this attempt to scrape it, and results in better information.
https://maps.app.goo.gl/<id>
Those links smack of the same mindset behind "Refactor to rewrite procedure A in terms of procedure B. 7 lines deleted; 17 lines added."
What can possibly be the motivation for this? I see no rationale for it in the linked post.
Google already has severe trust issues with anything they launch. They hurt themselves because people expect whatever is being launched to be abandoned so why invest in it? Reputation matters.
I guess Chrome metrics and URL-suffixes now answer this better (and so they probably failed to justify the internal budget to keep it)...
Google could easily afford to keep existing short links working indefinitely and simply not allow new entries... it's a simple KV lookup and redirect. Even with billions of links, hardly any overhead.
Given that it doesn't make money, it has zero value alive and at least epsilon value dead. Plus they don't need the links to work to collect metrics.
Mousewheel through last years auctions on https://x.com/namemaxicom and can see how broken the entire system is from top to bottom.
It's mostly for print usage anyway.. and with all the TLDs out there now, you can definitely still get some short options. I literally have one strictly for (reverse)dns for my server(s). Another for my mail server, separate from the domains the server hosts.
Also, hosting your own means you don't have to worry about being associated with externalized spam links. Of course, if you are a spammer, then it works even better for users that will block you.,