You seem to be a young fella, so let me tell you this:
Every time you do coder.Health-- for bank.Money++, you have the problem that you are never able to do coder.Health++ for bank.Money-- afterwards.
Never sacrifice health for money. Never. Every idea that needs to be worked on more than 50 hours a week is an idea not worth working on.
rappatic · 1h ago
If Claude usage limits are this important to your life, it seems a little smarter to just bite the Claude Max bullet. Isn't an ordinary sleep schedule easily worth $180/month difference?
serf · 12m ago
counterpoint :
I had a max x20 account for the past three months and hit limits just about every period that fell within working hours.
I finally cancelled it two days ago due to overspending-guilt/token-grinding guilt, and they shorted me my last day due to an error on their side regarding time zones.
It's really so dependent on your workloads. Conversations around token expenditure are wildly different from individual to individual,and workload to workload.
Dealing with codebases that require contextual reading due to a lack of training corpus (R/Go/Common Lisp, among others..) EAT context and tokens for breakfast.
mattwiese · 58m ago
It sure is, but this has been a fun experiment because I want to sail solo in the future.
If I can't vibe code while sleep deprived, I sure as heck won't be able to react to an AIS alert and change course in the middle of the night!
schaefer · 25m ago
Do you know that big’s backyard ultra exists? Even more ways to get your sleep deprived fun.
astral_drama · 51m ago
You do your best and let the sea take of the rest.
Anyhow, vibe coding is pretty low stakes compared to the joys and terrors you'll find out at sea.
Bon voyage!
max-m · 58m ago
At this point I can't even tell reality from satire anymore.
BigJono · 3m ago
The thread before with someone flogging off their educational book they wrote "with Claude in an afternoon", as if anyone would benefit from investing days or weeks of learning effort into consuming something the author couldn't be fucked spending even a single day on, that one was well crafted satire, right?
...right?
mattwiese · 52m ago
At the risk of derailing the thread, your comment is a poignant reminder of Baudrillard's simulacra & simulation.
Also, not satire... although written with a healthy dose of token-in-cheek :]
mareko · 42m ago
I'm impressed by your determination.
A while back, I had a big paper deadline a week away and knew I didn’t have enough time to finish without sacrificing sleep.
Rather than cutting my sleep short, I decided to stick with 7–8 hours of rest and instead lengthen my wake window. I worked out a schedule that gave me six nights of sleep across seven days. It meant waking up at stranger and stranger times as the week went on, and getting some odd looks from my roommates when I emerged from my room. But in the end, it was totally worth it. I was waking up well-rested and ready to tackle those extra-long days.
The effort paid off 100%. Not only did I make the deadline, but my paper was accepted as well. A year later, that same paper helped me get into my PhD program of choice.
It’s funny how these short bursts of intense effort can sometimes have such a big impact.
Best of luck with your side hustle!
judge123 · 26m ago
LOL, this is the most brilliant, unhinged productivity hack I've seen all year. What's next? Moving to a different time zone to get more GPT-5 credits? I'm taking notes.
__MatrixMan__ · 44m ago
I experimented with polyphasic sleep for a few months. It was really interesting to experience time as more continuous, not broken up into days.
I gave it up because I found it wasn't very fault tolerant. If I missed a bedtime even by just a few hours, or ate before trying to sleep, I was in a bad state for a day or two until I could get back on track.
mattwiese · 35m ago
> I gave it up because I found it wasn't very fault tolerant. If I missed a bedtime even by just a few hours, or ate before trying to sleep, I was in a bad state for a day or two until I could get back on track.
That's what terrifies me about polyphasic sleep at sea. I had a few "cheat" days while attempting this, but of course the safety of myself and others didn't depend on if I hit snooze 5 times in an hour. Claude just got lonely for a bit.
It's really an interesting technique and I hope to find and talk with sailors who've done it. Thanks for sharing your experience.
__MatrixMan__ · 23m ago
On the bright side, those others would have good reason not to give you reasons to deviate from the plan.
It was usually social pressure that did me in. People want to meet for coffee or drinks or food at a time when it wasn't well aligned with my nap schedule, and I started making compromises...
I suppose something that engages you for hours could appear unscheduled while sailing, but it seems like most sources of such things could be mitigated with adequate planning, and they're unlikely to involve coffee or beer or birthday cake.
hattmall · 1m ago
>I suppose something that engages you for hours could appear unscheduled while sailing
I would say, generally speaking, that comprises the bulk of the time. Most likely you will spend more time in unscheduled multi-hour long tasks than anything else over the course of an extended trip.
Duanemclemore · 44m ago
Ah yes, polyphasic sleep. Like the classic Seinfeld episode [0].
Inspired by this, a buddy of mine tried "DaVinci Sleep" at our residential high school, and lasted a week before he crashed for 20 hours and went back to a normal schedule.
Apropos of nothing, he's now a very well regarded academic - in an unrelated field.
To be fair, computer science is famous for people rearranging their sleep schedule around when the compute time was available.
Spend a few hundred on a GPU, run Cline locally, and get a good nights rest.
ltbarcly3 · 55m ago
Literally the first thing I thought when I read how claude counts usage is "I need to set up a cron job to do one claude request before I wake up, so my work day is split in half on the 7 hour bucket times. So probably 5AM, my tokens reset at 12, then reset again at 7.
plusfour · 34m ago
have some self respect.
MangoToupe · 50m ago
You could just try and sleep.
tehnub · 58m ago
Not sure if it's full on satire, slightly outrageous ideas expressed in fanciful language for the fun of it, or the writing of a true believer. Fun read, good luck with the stealth B2B!
mattwiese · 55m ago
Definitely written tongue-in-cheek, but I did do this and it did "work" lol. Cheers!
Every time you do coder.Health-- for bank.Money++, you have the problem that you are never able to do coder.Health++ for bank.Money-- afterwards.
Never sacrifice health for money. Never. Every idea that needs to be worked on more than 50 hours a week is an idea not worth working on.
I had a max x20 account for the past three months and hit limits just about every period that fell within working hours.
I finally cancelled it two days ago due to overspending-guilt/token-grinding guilt, and they shorted me my last day due to an error on their side regarding time zones.
It's really so dependent on your workloads. Conversations around token expenditure are wildly different from individual to individual,and workload to workload.
Dealing with codebases that require contextual reading due to a lack of training corpus (R/Go/Common Lisp, among others..) EAT context and tokens for breakfast.
If I can't vibe code while sleep deprived, I sure as heck won't be able to react to an AIS alert and change course in the middle of the night!
Anyhow, vibe coding is pretty low stakes compared to the joys and terrors you'll find out at sea.
Bon voyage!
...right?
Also, not satire... although written with a healthy dose of token-in-cheek :]
A while back, I had a big paper deadline a week away and knew I didn’t have enough time to finish without sacrificing sleep.
Rather than cutting my sleep short, I decided to stick with 7–8 hours of rest and instead lengthen my wake window. I worked out a schedule that gave me six nights of sleep across seven days. It meant waking up at stranger and stranger times as the week went on, and getting some odd looks from my roommates when I emerged from my room. But in the end, it was totally worth it. I was waking up well-rested and ready to tackle those extra-long days.
The effort paid off 100%. Not only did I make the deadline, but my paper was accepted as well. A year later, that same paper helped me get into my PhD program of choice.
It’s funny how these short bursts of intense effort can sometimes have such a big impact.
Best of luck with your side hustle!
I gave it up because I found it wasn't very fault tolerant. If I missed a bedtime even by just a few hours, or ate before trying to sleep, I was in a bad state for a day or two until I could get back on track.
That's what terrifies me about polyphasic sleep at sea. I had a few "cheat" days while attempting this, but of course the safety of myself and others didn't depend on if I hit snooze 5 times in an hour. Claude just got lonely for a bit.
It's really an interesting technique and I hope to find and talk with sailors who've done it. Thanks for sharing your experience.
It was usually social pressure that did me in. People want to meet for coffee or drinks or food at a time when it wasn't well aligned with my nap schedule, and I started making compromises...
I suppose something that engages you for hours could appear unscheduled while sailing, but it seems like most sources of such things could be mitigated with adequate planning, and they're unlikely to involve coffee or beer or birthday cake.
I would say, generally speaking, that comprises the bulk of the time. Most likely you will spend more time in unscheduled multi-hour long tasks than anything else over the course of an extended trip.
Inspired by this, a buddy of mine tried "DaVinci Sleep" at our residential high school, and lasted a week before he crashed for 20 hours and went back to a normal schedule.
Apropos of nothing, he's now a very well regarded academic - in an unrelated field.
To be fair, computer science is famous for people rearranging their sleep schedule around when the compute time was available.
[0] https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Friar%27s_Club