I just wish we could roll back most of that security system.
It's a mess. Every time it's going through these lines with TSA employees playing hall monitor shouting often conflicting instructions, often within earshot of each other and the backup is NOT the passengers, it's the machines. Everyone hurries up and waits for the machines to scan bags.
Sporting events in the US, same thing. I'm outside in a huge crowd of people in public where anyone could do something terrible to these densely packed people on the street. They're all waiting to go through metal detectors so nobody for some reason wold choose to wait in line to go inside and do something terrible, inside. As opposed to just doing it right then and there ...
bigyabai · 2h ago
If only money could absolve liability. Liability's why crazed gunmen target concert venues and dance clubs and sporting events, it's because they know it sends a message directly to the top. If you're a CEO that has to contend with your customers worrying for their lives, you have a critically threatened business. Street violence is zero-sum by comparison.
Sufficiently traumatized people (read: average American) will want to stop this before it happens, particularly when their bottom line counts on it. The administrative class is more than willing to degrade your experience if it ensures the survival of their business in an unsafe environment. It will happen again.
duxup · 2h ago
>why crazed gunmen target concert venues and dance clubs and sporting events
That really doesn't seem to happen much, and I'm not sure the security is preventing it. As noted they can certainly still do it before the security and accomplish their goal, and yet it doesn't seem to happen.
bigyabai · 1h ago
I'm not arguing that killing people at concerts is the most productive way to force change, or that it's overwhelmingly likely. But it does happen, and the insecurity around it drives modern hosts to secure their venue however they can.
If 9/11 was enough to throw America into a security tizzy, you can only imagine what kind of minuscule international threat would be enough to send America careening back towards the same policy today. I just don't think we'll live to see most of this rolled back.
duxup · 47m ago
I feel like you’re trying to explain it to me like “risk” is something I’ve never heard of and … ignoring / don’t understand anything I said.
cebert · 2h ago
I’d imagine this would help speed up the lines quite a bit.
It's a mess. Every time it's going through these lines with TSA employees playing hall monitor shouting often conflicting instructions, often within earshot of each other and the backup is NOT the passengers, it's the machines. Everyone hurries up and waits for the machines to scan bags.
Sporting events in the US, same thing. I'm outside in a huge crowd of people in public where anyone could do something terrible to these densely packed people on the street. They're all waiting to go through metal detectors so nobody for some reason wold choose to wait in line to go inside and do something terrible, inside. As opposed to just doing it right then and there ...
Sufficiently traumatized people (read: average American) will want to stop this before it happens, particularly when their bottom line counts on it. The administrative class is more than willing to degrade your experience if it ensures the survival of their business in an unsafe environment. It will happen again.
That really doesn't seem to happen much, and I'm not sure the security is preventing it. As noted they can certainly still do it before the security and accomplish their goal, and yet it doesn't seem to happen.
If 9/11 was enough to throw America into a security tizzy, you can only imagine what kind of minuscule international threat would be enough to send America careening back towards the same policy today. I just don't think we'll live to see most of this rolled back.
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