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I have been working on Octelium for quite a few years now but it was open sourced only by late May 2025. Octelium, as described more in detail in the repo's README, is simply an open source, self-hosted, unified platform for zero trust resource access that is primarily meant to be a modern alternative to corporate VPNs and remote access tools. It can operate as a remote access/corporate VPN (i.e. alternative to Twingate, Tailscale, OpenVPN Access Server, etc...), a ZTNA/BeyondCorp platform (i.e. alterntive to Cloudflare Access, Teleport, Google BeyondCorp, etc...), and it can also operate as an API/AI gateway, an infrastructure for MCP and A2A architectures and meshes, an ngrok alternative, a homelab infrastructure or even as a more advanced Kubernetes ingress. It's basically designed to operate like a unified Kubernetes-like scalable architecture for zero trust secure/remote access that's suitable for different human-to-workload and workload-to-workload environments. You can read more in detail the full set of main features and links about how it works in the repo's README or directly in the docs https://octelium.com/docs

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ar-nelson · 4h ago

For everyone who's having a hard time parsing what Octelium does, I found this page to be the clearest explanation: https://octelium.com/docs/octelium/latest/overview/how-octel...

It's clearer because, instead of starting with a massive list of everything you could do with Octelium (which is indeed confusing), it starts by explaining the core primitives Octelium is built on, and builds up from there.

And it actually looks pretty cool and useful! From what I can tell, the core funtionality is:

- A VPN-like gateway that understands higher-level protocols, like HTTP or PostgreSQL, and can make fine-grained security decisions using the content of those protocols

- A cluster configuration layer on top of Kubernetes

And these two things combine to make, basically, a personal cloud. So, like any of the big cloud platforms, it does a million things and it's hard to figure out which ones you need at first. But it seems like the kind of system that could be used for a homelab, a small company that wants to keep cloud costs down, or a custom PaaS selling cloud functionality. Neat!

ttul · 2h ago

TailScale is wonderful but they do need competition. I imagine an IPO is on the horizon, and as soon as they enter that phase, nasty price increases are sure to follow unless someone else is nipping hard at their heels.

wkat4242 · 18m ago

But there are so so many competing products already?

Not all are commercial (but why would you want that anyway). But ZeroTier is another one like that. Basically the same thing.

seabrookmx · 2h ago

Hopefully their tolerance to self-hosters (Headscale) doesn't change.

wkat4242 · 16m ago

The problem is, commercial services will always enshittify. It's inevitable. Even when they conquer the whole market (see Netflix) they will want to see a rising line in profits so then they will turn the thumbscrews on the customers.

PoachedEggs · 45m ago

I’ve been meaning to explore Netbird. Fewer features at the moment, but can be fully self hosted.

wkat4242 · 18m ago

There are so so many of these already...

- Tinc (the OG of P2P VPN)

- Hamachi (not open though)

- ZeroTier

- Nebula (from Slack)

- Tailscale

- Netbird

I wonder why people keep building more. I know each has its own quirks and things they're better at, but the difference is really quite minimal.

One of the things I really would like is zero-trust 'lighthouses'. With current Zerotier and Tailscale, you really have to trust them because they can add nodes on your account whenever they want. I don't want that, I want fully self-hosted and for the lighthouses to just coordinate but not to be part of the network. I have to do some research to see what would be best.

geoctl · 3m ago

With all respect, regardless of the fact that Octelium can replace the products you just mentioned, its context of interest is much larger and focused towards zero trust rather than just merely a yet another VPN/a remote access tool to access internal resources. I'd appreciate if you could read the docs so that you can understand the features and architecture of Octelium. Every product claims to be "zero trust" these days, even VPNs and simple tunneling applications, however, actual zero trust architectures as defined by NIST (i.e. architectures built upon L7-aware identity-aware proxies, policy-decision-points, L7-aware and context-aware per-request access control via policy-as-code and ABAC, centralized identity and policy management, etc...) and there are many commercial products that are "true" ZTAs (e.g. Cloudflare Access, Teleport, Google BeyondCorp, StrongDM, Zscaler, etc...). The term is being however abused by the companies, some of which, are extremely well funded, to distort reality and the fact that their products were not even built for zero trust. Something like: " either we all are zero trust, or zero trust doesn't really exist or mean anything".

apitman · 11m ago

And many more: https://github.com/anderspitman/awesome-tunneling

therealpygon · 4h ago

Just some feedback to share some problems I personally think you’re going to have and why I suspect you’ll face a healthy amount of skepticism. There is a lack of history of development that ends with a major initial commit of unknown origin, a lack of any public information, a company that does not appear (publicly) to exist, and a product that is going to solve every need that can be imagined by packing it with buzzwords and little to no evidence of security. When faced with those things, my next step would be to consider how much is original versus built on underlying technologies I know and trust; information that is lacking.

If you’re launching a business, I would suggest making sure the business looks legitimate; if it’s a pet project, trying to make yourself sound like a big business and then not having the footprint gives off “fake”/scam/caution vibes. If you’re a solo dev, drop all the fake business stuff and get rid of the buzz words and “it can do everything” marketing and focus on what it excels at as an open source project.

People are going to be skeptical (rightfully) that a solo dev/no name company is going to suddenly drop a product that rivals those of massive companies. Either massive shortcuts were taken, or there is a high chance that it will be insecure, which is not something you want from a VPN or any of the other things it claims to do. If you’ve built on existing secure technologies, you should emphasizing them because known names that have a security history are going to build a lot more trust than a no-name product.

If a software is hard to explain the purpose of to an average person in a single sentence, you have an uphill battle. Listing more features isn’t usually going to be the answer, regardless of how accurate you’re attempting to be. “It’s a VPN! and a PaaS! and a ZTNA! And an API Gateway! and AI!” It screams “please download me” rather than “I’m here to solve a problem“, which is why I wouldn’t even bother to try it; the opposite of what any project is going for.

My intention isn’t to just be critical, but rather to point out things that are likely harming your efforts.

geoctl · 4h ago

Thank you for your insightful feedback. I completely understand the criticism because Octelium is conciously designed to be many things at the same time. As mentioned in the other replies, Octelium is a unified/generic zero trust access platform that can fit in many human-to-workload and workload-to-workload use cases (the docs contain various examples in detail) that's why it might be confusing for newcomers. The initial commit came out of nowhere because I've been working on this project since early 2020 actually and decided to start with a clean public repo when I publicly released the code a month ago, after nearly 9000 manual commits over the past 5 years. I simply could not verify that I could have potentially leaked private info esepcially in early commits and the project itself almost entirely changed over the past 5 years from a simple remote access WireGuard VPN to what it is today in terms of architecture, features and complexity.

cyanydeez · 3h ago

I think the primary concern was you look like a State actor using a AI to generate a project you hope private companies will use and your intentions don't appear clear, and the verbose replies & github suggest a lot of effort into a facade without anything else.

One might posit that you're repackaging a fOSS project from somewhere with no clear ethos.

geoctl · 3h ago

I have been developing the project solo on a private GitHub repo since 2020. I am not VC-backed or whatever else, Octelium has been a solo effort so far basically. The project itself is now 100% open source as you can see. However, even if I open sourced the initial private repo, what would make you believe that I am who I really am? maybe even all those git commits from 2020 weren't really from 2020 and their timestamps have been spoofed to make you believe so. If 100% of the codebase of the project being open source is still not enough, I guess nothing can be enough.

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csomar · 2h ago

Give open source devs a break. We don't know the OP background or his motivations. He might have been working on this for fun. He doesn't need to justify any of this. This is open source and Free software. Take it as it is.

> If a software is hard to explain the purpose of to an average person in a single sentence, you have an uphill battle.

It does. If you use tailscale/cloudflare access and ngrok, the product is pretty well described. If you don't, then probably you don't need this product.

mzhaase · 5h ago

I have an immediate complete distrust to anything that throws around so many buzzwords. This is the github page and I still don't understand what it even does, specifically.

geoctl · 5h ago

I'd appreciate if you could provide me a list of those buzzwords so that I can improve the readme.

drexlspivey · 4h ago

“A next-gen FOSS self-hosted unified zero trust secure access platform that can operate as a remote access VPN, a ZTNA/BeyondCorp architecture, API/AI gateway, a PaaS, an infrastructure for MCP & A2A architectures or even as an ngrok-alternative and a homelab infrastructure.”

Literally every single word of it

geoctl · 4h ago

I admit that the "next-gen" word might sound cheesy. As I said in the other reply, the more correct definition for Octelium is: a unified zero trust secure access platform. However, as I said this is a term that nobody would relate to. It's a ZTNA/BeyondCorp platform but not in the rigid sense. It's also a WireGuard/QUIC-based remote access VPN but it operates at layer-7 to provide L7 aware access control, secretless access, dynamic configuration and routing as well as OpenTelemtry-native visibility and auditing via identity-aware proxies and policy-decision-points instead of just controlling access at layer-3. As I said, it's designed to be more like a generic Kubernetes-like architecture for secure remote access that can be used for many different use cases.

sureglymop · 4h ago

I think the issue here is that while these terms may be very familiar to you (and to me personally also), they are not at all familiar to most people who will encounter your project.

Thus, those people coming across your project may quickly overlook it instead of giving it a chance which is disappointing.

By contrast, here is Tailscales tagline: "Fast, seamless device connectivity — no hardware, no firewall rules, no wasted time."

That kind of tells even a non-technical user what it is for even if it dumbs down all it can do. That user then doesn't need to know any technical jargon or how it works under the hood or even what wireguard is at all. The tagline is what prompts them to install and try it out and from there the UX is the deciding factor in whether they keep using it or not.

geoctl · 4h ago

Thank you. I completely understand your point. But as mentioned in the other replies. Octelium is designed to be much more than just a VPN. It is not even tied to provide remote access to "devices" or resources behind NAT. It's zero trust architecture that's equally designed to provide access to internal resources and publicly protected resources such as SaaS APIs, databases, Kubernetes APIservers, SSH, etc... It provides both client-based (i.e. VPN-like) access as well as clientless access for both humans and workloads. For example, Humans can just use their browsers to access internal resources behind NAT like a typical protected SaaS resource. Workloads written in any programming language can access protected HTTP/gRPC APIs, Kubernetes, etc... via standard OAuth2 and bearer authentication without using any clients or special SDKs even such protected resources are protected by different API keys/access tokens.

sureglymop · 3h ago

But that's what I'm getting at. Even if it is much more, is all of that immediately relevant to a curious/potential new user?

I understand it may not be easy to narrow down the explanation, especially if you invested a lot of time and don't want to do a disservice to yourself by underselling it. Looking at the Tailscale tagline I quoted, it is small and ambiguous enough that it works marketing wise, regardless of all the features and solutions they offer. But it was just an example, I should maybe have used a totally different example of a product that is not in the same realm as yours.

The explanation you gave to me here is good but only because I vaguely know what all this jargon means. Try to think of a short simple sentence that a non-expert could understand.

geoctl · 3h ago

I am sorry that you find whatever I say as nothing but "jargon". I assume that those interested in Octelium are already interested in zero trust architectures as defined by NIST, simply products such as Cloudlfare Access, Teleport, StrongDM, Google BeyondCorp, Zscaler ZTNA, etc... I will do my best to simplify the README soon.

therealpygon · 4h ago

What you took away from that was that “next-gen” was the problem?

Buzzwords can still be technically accurate and you seem to be ignoring that when it keeps being confronted. “But it is” doesn’t matter when it comes to “but it sounds like”.

Let me give you an example; if I was walk into a store, do you think I want to talk to the person who talks about the “bidirectional optoelectromechanical document transcription and reproduction apparatus implementing discrete photonic acquisition and microdeposition techniques for bidimensional substrate encoding”, or do I want to talk to the person who will sell me a “photocopier”?

maxmcd · 4h ago

I think "no buzzwords" would be further in the direction of:

"This software let's you set up peer to peer networking between your devices, expose them to the internet, run applications on them, view useful runtime information, and integrate easily with cloud providers and infrastructure you're familiar with."

geoctl · 4h ago

Thank you. Octelium, however, does not operate as p2p and does not directly connect devices since that by itself contradicts the whole point of zero trust. It provides remote access to resources, or even sub-resources via L7 access control (e.g. allow access to some HTTP paths to some users based on identity/context/request content, etc...), not completely to "devices" or to complete subnets.

dudeinjapan · 2h ago

How about: “Octelium is a secure, policy-based access gateway to your HTTP services, with both VPN tunnel-based and OAuth/zero-trust modes available. (And it can do a lot more!)”

geoctl · 1h ago

Thank you. I think your description is great but I, as a user myself, might see it as an identity-aware proxy (i.e. something like Pomerium and Ory Oathkeeper IaPs which are great projects) as opposed to a complete Kubernetes-tier platform that does the entire process of remote access, access control, visibility and auditing, user and identtiy management, centralized policy management, etc... from a data-plane and control-plane perspective for an arbitrary number of resources that need to be protected.

dudeinjapan · 56m ago

Much of this writing is about finding the right level of detail to communicate the core ideas.

“Octelium is a full-featured access control platform, which provides API gateways and/or VPN tunnels to your HTTP services, paired with an intuitive user, policy, and auditing backplane and policy-as-code.”

Something like the above would be much more enticing to potential users including myself. I can get a rough idea of what I can actually use it for and how it can be integrated into my existing stack—and if there are more features I’ll be pleasantly surprised when I read the docs!

geoctl · 14m ago

I completely agree with you. And tbqh since almost everybody in the thread is complaining about the README then I must be really doing something wrong explaining Octelium and what it does. I will certainly put more effort to make the README and especially the main description section more useful and easier to understand without transforming it into more of a marketing pitch. As I mentioned in other replies, it's actually really hard to concisely describe fairly complex projects (e.g. Kubernetes, Istio, etc...), especially to newcomers. But I will definitely do my best to improve the docs and README. Thank you really for your insightful comments.

pelagicAustral · 3h ago

"...to make the world a better place." was missing from this paragraph.

mystraline · 2h ago

It is zero-trust.

I don't trust this.

Arch-TK · 17m ago

I just use some tools to automate configuration of a wireguard mesh overlay network. It doesn't seem like it should need to be harder than that.

rollcat · 5h ago

I understand adding the "AI" keyword is just SEO, like adding "Reddit" to article headlines... It still leaves a bad taste, even if the main course is excellent.

Even the diagrams for API vs AI gateways are almost identical.

<https://tailscale.com/blog/ai-normal>

geoctl · 5h ago

There are lots of common functionalities between API and AI gateways. It would be much easier for you to check out the examples in the docs: For the AI gateway: https://octelium.com/docs/octelium/latest/management/guide/s... As for the API gateway: https://octelium.com/docs/octelium/latest/management/guide/s...

I am also working on extending the process of modifying HTTP requests/body content beside what's been provided (see more https://octelium.com/docs/octelium/latest/management/core/se...). For now, Envoy's ext_proc support is coming, and I might also work on support for proxy-wasm if there is interest in it.

cedws · 4h ago

Definitely interested in an open source alternative to Tailscale.

The README is way too verbose though. It should explain the project at a glance and have links to docs for the details.

homarp · 3h ago

headscale is an open source alternative to tailscale:

https://github.com/juanfont/headscale

uneekname · 2h ago

Headscale is great (I use it) but it is an alternative to the Tailscale control server, not the client applications. Some of those are closed source, and their compatibility with Headscale is not guaranteed.

CharlesW · 2h ago

Tailscale's client is already open source.

https://tailscale.com/opensource: "The core client code for the Tailscale daemon used across all platforms is open source, and the full client code is open source for platforms that are also open source."

yjftsjthsd-h · 5h ago

The big thing to me about Tailscale is easy p2p connectivity. I think it looks like this doesn't do that and uses centralized router(s)?

geoctl · 5h ago

Octelium is a zero trust architecture not a p2p VPN even though it can seamlessy operate as a WireGuard/QUIC-based remote access VPN among other things. Its architecture is closer to Cloudflare Access, Teleport, etc... as it provides dynamic L7-aware access control, secret-less access (i.e. injecting API keys and access tokens, database passwords, SSH private keys, mTLS private keys etc... without distributing them to Users), dynamic configuration and routing to upstreams, etc... via identity-aware proxies as opposed to just merely operating as a VPN at layer-3 as well as to providing OpenTelemetry-native visibility and auditing in real-time. True zero trust architectures such as ZTNA/BeyondCorp, apart from service meshes (e.g. Kubernetes service meshes), are problematic to be implemented as p2p VPNs to say the least. You simply need L7-aware identity-proxies to do the process of access control and visibility at the application-layer on a per-request basis.

gen6acd60af · 3h ago

>easy p2p connectivity

>centralized router(s)

When using Tailscale, your packets may be sent through centralized routers, FYI.

https://tailscale.com/kb/1257/connection-types

fariszr · 3h ago

This looks very impressive, but the Readme has way to many details, I think i got the idea but I'm not sure, and that's a problem.

b0a04gl · 2h ago

what if this wasnt something you add after infra but the checkpoint you start with. right now you spin up a vm or db then wrap vpn or firewall around it. but imagine writing access rules first in way : 'team ml can hit service x' or 'web app can hit this backend' and the system wires infra from that.. infra becomes a side effect of access intent. access isnt something you cant guard always( as things move fast, breaks fast), it's may become seed where you can design with.

geoctl · 1h ago

If I did understand your point then Octelium actually tries to do what you want to see, at least to a certain extent via managed containers. For example, Octelium can deploy, scale and manage your containerized applications (e.g. web apps, APIs, databases or even PiHole DNS servers) and automatically serve and protect them as Octelium Services. Once you're done with the Service with whatever reason, all the underlying managed container infrastructe is automatically cleaned up. You can see some examples from the docs here:

https://octelium.com/docs/octelium/latest/management/guide/s... https://octelium.com/docs/octelium/latest/management/guide/s... https://octelium.com/docs/octelium/latest/management/guide/s... https://octelium.com/docs/octelium/latest/management/guide/s...

shrubble · 3h ago

One takeaway is that this can replace ZLayer, and it does offer much more functionality than that. Is that correct?

kosolam · 5h ago

It looks very interesting, but I’m getting lost in the pages of features and different use cases. It would have been nice to have a succinct list of features/capabilities (technical, not buzzword) and why this solution solves better than alternatives.

geoctl · 5h ago

Thank you. I understand it's hard to concisely define what Octelium is because it is designed as a unified/generic secure/zero trust access platform, a term that almost nobody would relate to. It's more of a generic Kubernetes-like architecture/infrastructure for zero trust secure access that can fit many different use cases (i.e. human to workload and workload to workload environments). Well, it can be used as a typical WireGuard/QUIC-based remote access/corporate VPN. It can be used as a ZTNA/BeyondCorp platform with identity-based, L7 aware, context-aware ABAC via policy-as-code with CEL and OPA where you can control access at layer-7 (e.g. HTTP request headers, serialized JSON body content, etc...). It can also be used as an ngrok alternative (both secure access via OIDC/SAML/GitHub IdP as well as anonymously which can fit for hosting, testing APIs, etc...). It can also deploy your containerized resources and automatically provide client-based/clientless secure access to them (kinda like a PaaS) and it does provide dynamic configuration and routing to upstreams via policy-as-code (e.g. route to different API versions, use different SSH credentials, different API keys, different postgres user/password based on identity/context, etc....). It can also fit as an API/AI gateway and a scalable infrastructure for MCP architectures/meshes. Therefore, it's not really a ZTNA/VPN in the rigid sense, it's a more generic platform where what it does to secure/remote access is similar to what Kuberentes does for containers.

alienbaby · 5h ago

Perhaps it would be easier to go through a few typical use cases and implementations, and describe how they work with less brand naming and technical fancywords.

I scanned the github, and your reply above, and I still don't really get it.

I imagine I would understand it better if I was more fluent in the vocabulary you use and understood what some of the platforms and interesting names did from the get go.

So yea, my 2p - break it down into some use cases from simple - intermediate - advanced, use more straight forward language and less platform / product names. Technical terms are fine, but try not to string a zillion of them together all in one go... it reads a bit too much like a sales pitch trying to cram in as many acronyms and cool sounding things as possible.

reachableceo · 4h ago

I do agree with that. As a potential customer , reading over the page, it was incredibly redundant / dense.

I recommend using an LLM to rewrite it far more succinctly.

geoctl · 4h ago

I honestly don't understand where the "sales pitch" part is. This project has been so far a solo effort and I am the one who basically wrote all the code. It's not like this is some VC-backed product where I am a marketing guy replying to you. I would appreciate it if you could provide me direct questions about what you don't understand so that I can answer you.

homarp · 3h ago

define all the terms.

explain simple use cases.

explain why you built it, how you use it.

explain the 'size' of it (it requires k8s so might not be for my small homelab)

compare to 'similar' offerings.

catlifeonmars · 4h ago

Gentle feedback: if it’s hard to concisely define what Octelium is, it will be hard to convince people to use it.

To me this sounds like an L7 identity & access management layer for wireguard, but again I had trouble parsing the readme.

geoctl · 2h ago

Thank you. I completely understand your point of view. I did put a lot of effort actually trying to come up with a simple concise description that can fit in an HN 80-char wide title but I simply could not do it. If you think about it, other fairly complex projects such as Kubernetes or Istio are also very hard to concisely describe for newcomers. There is always some assumption that potential users of the project are already acquainted with the terms used in modern zero trust architectures and familiar with similar commercial products such as Cloudflare Access, Teleport, StrongDM and many other related products.

reachableceo · 4h ago

Please update your HN profile with contact information.

This product? Framework? Solution? seems to be exactly what I’ve been looking for / attempting to put together for my company. We are entirely self hosted and use only FLO software.

We use Cloudron as our core PAAS and have been looking for a FLO zero trust / identity aware proxy for DB/RDP/SSH .

Happy to be your flagship customer.

We have a brand new k8s (self hosted) cluster deployed . We use wazuh as our SEIM, librenms for monitoring / alerting.

Currently we use tailscale (with magicdns disabled and we hand out our internal pi hole IP as our recursive DNS server ) (and we have an authoritative DNS for our internal corporate domain).

Charles@turnsys.com reaches me pretty quickly most days. Would love to deploy this immediately and write a testimonial etc

geoctl · 4h ago

Thank you so much. I will definitely contact you very soon.

ghoshbishakh · 3h ago

So this is something like pinggy.io - self hosted?

geoctl · 2h ago

Yes, it can operate as a self-hosted ngrok, pinggy, Cloudflare Tunnel with Github/OpenID Connect/SAML SSO and it can also provide anonymous public access, which can be useful for public website/API hosting, among many other use cases. You can see the examples https://octelium.com/docs/octelium/latest/management/guide/s... and https://octelium.com/docs/octelium/latest/management/guide/s...

kevmo314 · 3h ago

I’m impressed with how helpful HN commenters are being despite the unilateral opinion about the pitch and readme.

For what it’s worth, the title of the post is a pretty good pitch. Leaving it at “FOSS Alternative to …” would be a step in the right direction.

sneak · 4h ago

As the other commenters have pointed out, your README is offputting.

Last year I wrote an article about how to write a good README:

https://sneak.berlin/20241224/readme-howto/

geoctl · 4h ago

Thank you. I will definitely work on making the README more concise and hopefully more useful and easy to understand.

sevg · 4h ago

Your readme isn’t great, but I wouldn’t pay much attention to this guide that this person keeps posting.

It’s way too long and excessively prescriptive, and the author goes too far with inserting their opinions (ie, don’t use github, don’t use discord etc.). I couldn’t possibly recommend this howto.

sneak · 4h ago

Oh, look, we both have opinions that we each believe are important. Imagine that. :)

I think this is the part where I’m supposed to tell third parties to disregard yours, but I’m not going to.

Onavo · 3h ago

How does it compare to Pangolin?

geoctl · 1h ago

Well I haven't used Pangolin myself, but Octelium can basically operate as a similar self-hosted remote access tool. It is designed however, to provide much more than just remote access. It provides L7-aware, context-aware ABAC-based access control, it provides L7-aware secretless access without distributing L7 credentials to users, it provides dynamic routing/configuration to upstreams and upstreams credentials based on identity/context, it provides OpenTemeltry-read L7 aware visibility and auditing. Therefore, it's more closer to Cloudflare Access, Teleport Enterprise, StrongDM, etc... than to Pangolin. However, it's also not just a ZTNA in the rigid sense, for example, your applications written in any programming language can just generate fine-grained bearer authentication access tokens via OAuth2 client credentials flow to access protect Services without having to use clients or special SDKs or being aware of Octelium at all. Octelium also operate on top of Kubernetes which makes it seamless for you to provide horizontal scalability and availability as your Cluster's Services, Users, Sessions and simply traffic grow.

homarp · 3h ago

since I had to ggole it https://github.com/fosrl/pangolin

Tunneled Reverse Proxy Server with Access Control - your own self-hosted zero trust tunnel. AGPL3

pydry · 4h ago

Can you use VPNs outside of your infra (e.g. protonvpn, mullvad) as an exit node?

geoctl · 4h ago

Interesting. One way to do that in Octelium is via a SOCKS5 proxy served as an Octelium Service. In fact the Octelium Cluster nodes itself can operate as exit nodes directly and you can use that as a form of consumer VPN. You can even deploy and scale TOR containers over Octelium and have load balanced TOR.

pydry · 3h ago

This is similar to the current set up I have with tailscale, but it's not ideal, hence why i asked.

geoctl · 2h ago

Can I ask you what an ideal setup for your use case would look like? Octelium isn't really concerned with connecting complete remote subnets to each other directly. You can simply use a SOCKS5 proxy as an Octelium Service and do all the access control, dynamic routing and load balancing to that Service representing a specific "VPN".

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