What prevents this from degrading into "present apps and features you're paid most to present" like BREW phones of the 00's?
> If you click something that isn’t already installed, it simply pages it over the internet.
The late 90's/early 00's Windows stuff about "Intellimirror" and "Zero Administration Windows (ZAW)" I read from time to time made similar promises. It was eventually swallowed by the realities of laptops and how people typically expect to use them.
> There is no waiting for downloads or installs.
So you have some magical way to make 40GB AutoCAD install instantly? Wow.
> A flat-fee subscription is essential so you never have to worry about unexpected charges when you try a new feature/app.
This would be cool, but how are you going to get Adobe on board?
> Do you think this is where operating systems are headed?
I think if app stores become something that a device maker has to open, then the future of operating systems is something that sidesteps that.
Such as an operating system with fixed apps, or "meta apps" that are containers for types of apps.
For example, imagine if your phone had a "Rideshare" button (important not to call it an app), which is carefully made to be part of the OS from a legal perspective. Then, rideshare providers such as Uber/Lyft could pay to be visible on this app. The API between this button and the provider might eventually be 100% AI defined, and it can support "Business Differentiation Services" which would cover what's different between providers.
An incitation to make this scheme standard would of course be security, e.g. "Buttons are more secure for your data than random apps!"
If you want capabilities not on your current device you will have to buy a new device, and devices can be segmented depending on the "buttons" that are on them.
JojoFatsani · 3h ago
Or we could continue not subscribing to our OS and building our work suite a la carte. I saw your other post on this.. I know you want it to happen but it doesn’t need to happen.
Someone might build an ML driven OS or gui but the in time app delivery thing is just gonna piss people off. The machine won’t know why someone wouldn’t want a particular app so it’ll end up installing way too much “just in case” and become irritating.
Most people are looking for less, not more, whether they realize it or not.
edent · 3h ago
> If you click something that isn’t already installed, it simply pages it over the internet. There is no waiting for downloads or installs.
This is VNC, or remote desktop, or a hundred similar services. Streaming apps suffer from latency issues, compression artefacts, and transient network flaws.
gjvc · 3h ago
The future of operating systems is no operating system, like Smalltalk, where there is no operating system.
This depends on the context, however.
bigyabai · 3h ago
The economics of this don't work out. You either make a $99/month service that nobody wants, or a $10/month service with intolerable limits.
What prevents this from degrading into "present apps and features you're paid most to present" like BREW phones of the 00's?
> If you click something that isn’t already installed, it simply pages it over the internet.
The late 90's/early 00's Windows stuff about "Intellimirror" and "Zero Administration Windows (ZAW)" I read from time to time made similar promises. It was eventually swallowed by the realities of laptops and how people typically expect to use them.
> There is no waiting for downloads or installs.
So you have some magical way to make 40GB AutoCAD install instantly? Wow.
> A flat-fee subscription is essential so you never have to worry about unexpected charges when you try a new feature/app.
This would be cool, but how are you going to get Adobe on board?
> Do you think this is where operating systems are headed?
I think if app stores become something that a device maker has to open, then the future of operating systems is something that sidesteps that.
Such as an operating system with fixed apps, or "meta apps" that are containers for types of apps.
For example, imagine if your phone had a "Rideshare" button (important not to call it an app), which is carefully made to be part of the OS from a legal perspective. Then, rideshare providers such as Uber/Lyft could pay to be visible on this app. The API between this button and the provider might eventually be 100% AI defined, and it can support "Business Differentiation Services" which would cover what's different between providers.
An incitation to make this scheme standard would of course be security, e.g. "Buttons are more secure for your data than random apps!"
If you want capabilities not on your current device you will have to buy a new device, and devices can be segmented depending on the "buttons" that are on them.
Someone might build an ML driven OS or gui but the in time app delivery thing is just gonna piss people off. The machine won’t know why someone wouldn’t want a particular app so it’ll end up installing way too much “just in case” and become irritating.
Most people are looking for less, not more, whether they realize it or not.
This is VNC, or remote desktop, or a hundred similar services. Streaming apps suffer from latency issues, compression artefacts, and transient network flaws.
This depends on the context, however.