Doesn't Subaru collaborate pretty closely with Toyota anyway? Toyota owns 20% of Subaru and they have several models which are outright rebadged or use shared platforms.
nradov · 19h ago
HN users keep claiming that EVs will be more reliable because they are mechanically simpler than ICE vehicles but the actual data generally indicates the opposite. It turns out that proper design and assembly quality matters a lot more than complexity.
robocat · 19h ago
Car reliability was assessed in this finding using member survey responses concerning personal car issues during the previous 12 months
In other words, their results are not cost based and are kinda bullshit.
we have a massive dataset of the make and model of the cars we have serviced and the type of maintenance done. We decided to use our data to understand which cars break down the most and have the highest maintenance costs
Have a squiz at the table of "Which Car Models Have the Lowest Maintenance Cost? Based On Total Maintenance Costs Over 10 Years". A Subaru model only just squeeks in at the last line (20th place).
Hard to actually compare manufacturers because you'd have to weight the per model costs. I've bought 4 second-hand Toyota's since reading that and my personal experience has been reliability and that Toyota part costs are reasonable and mechanics are affordable and they like to work on Toyotas. I've bought 96 high mileage 4WD still going great, 2006 van going great, 2011? station wagon which I've now sold, 96 high mileage station wagon (used for commute every day by cousin - going great).
Anybody know of any better source of information, based on real maintenance cost measurements?
JohnFen · 19h ago
They weren't measuring maintenance costs, they were measuring reliability. Two entirely different things. It's not bullshit just because they weren't measuring the thing you care about more.
gumboshoes · 19h ago
Misleading title. They are still the second and third most reliable, according to the FA.
The best data I've ever seen is from YourMechanic in 2016 https://archive.is/Tpizp :
Have a squiz at the table of "Which Car Models Have the Lowest Maintenance Cost? Based On Total Maintenance Costs Over 10 Years". A Subaru model only just squeeks in at the last line (20th place).Hard to actually compare manufacturers because you'd have to weight the per model costs. I've bought 4 second-hand Toyota's since reading that and my personal experience has been reliability and that Toyota part costs are reasonable and mechanics are affordable and they like to work on Toyotas. I've bought 96 high mileage 4WD still going great, 2006 van going great, 2011? station wagon which I've now sold, 96 high mileage station wagon (used for commute every day by cousin - going great).
Anybody know of any better source of information, based on real maintenance cost measurements?