Apple and Google clash with police and MPs over phone thefts

9 speckx 6 6/3/2025, 5:38:45 PM bbc.com ↗

Comments (6)

duxup · 20h ago
Apple already provides a method where the owner can brick the device.

>We worry that there is a vector for fraud... we are concerned about a world where it would be a person who claims to be the owner who's asking.

I would be concerned about that too.

m463 · 14h ago
I just think of all the ways people can mess with email or tcp/ip, like dos attacks and joe jobs.

It would be pretty easy to do this to the physical phone of an ex or a journalist, where the phone company helps your attack.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Denial-of-service_attack

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joe_job

hennell · 17h ago
This is very weird to me as a Brit as I think my first Nokia phone ~20 odd years ago I had to do a phone code on to get the IMEI as it was what you needed if it was stolen.

Hadn't realised that wasn't a global system, but not sure this article has really explained what the problem with it is. There's mention of fraud, yet this system has been active here for decades, so surely that's either a thing or it isn't?

JadeNB · 16h ago
> Hadn't realised that wasn't a global system, but not sure this article has really explained what the problem with it is.

It is—the first I is 'International'! I just checked in the US that *#06# will pull up the IMEI on my T-Mobile Android phone; I have no idea if that's specific to TMo or to Android. Or maybe you mean blocking by IMEI isn't global?

> There's mention of fraud, yet this system has been active here for decades, so surely that's either a thing or it isn't?

I'm not sure that follows. A lot changes over decades, and what once could be allowed to proceed on the basis that the fraud it enabled was sufficiently low-probability may now be too common a vector of attack, or at least perceived as too high-risk as a potential vector.

bell-cot · 20h ago
Not a Brit - but from coverage on UK-based news sites, I'd trust Apple & Google far more here than I would His Maj's Gov't.
_trampeltier · 20h ago
If it would be launched globaly, then you would have to trust every gov. Good luck.